Historic Sports Sedans

Peter Nightingale · 22 Oct 2007, 05:06 (Ref:2047372)

Now that sports sedans have been accepted as a catergory in Historics , what is going to come out of the garage , in the way of cars ?? .

PVDA · 22 Oct 2007, 07:19 (Ref:2047433)

I found out at the weekend that Thommo's VW has gone to god and been scraped.

Shame that.

mildura1963 · 22 Oct 2007, 10:30 (Ref:2047657)

The article in Auto Action mentions Edmonson's Alfa, Jim Richards Falcon, McCormack's XJS & Charger & Janes Monaro.............

275 GTB-4 · 22 Oct 2007, 12:34 (Ref:2047839)

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Originally Posted by PVDA

I found out at the weekend that Thommo's VW has gone to god and been scraped.

Shame that.

Seems like ages ago I recall seeing a photo of Bryan beside a rusty pile of old VW....have I missed something

PVDA · 22 Oct 2007, 22:16 (Ref:2048465)

He was racing his new toy at Calder over the weekend (VMRC) and told someone the shell was stuffed and at the time it would be near impossible to source the parts required to rebuild the car.

Peter Nightingale · 23 Oct 2007, 02:06 (Ref:2048584)

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Originally Posted by PVDA

He was racing his new toy at Calder over the weekend (VMRC) and told someone the shell was stuffed and at the time it would be near impossible to source the parts required to rebuild the car.

Nothing is impossible.......

inpitlane · 23 Oct 2007, 15:04 (Ref:2049255)

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Originally Posted by Peter Nightingale

Nothing is impossible.......

It is if they don't allow replicas. Everything from the original is gone and if you had to sacrifice another McLaren M10b to rebuild it then that'd be a disgrace.
Interesting that at the Australian Institute for Motor Sport Safety Seminar some speakers said that the Historic movements obsession with "originality" was just plain dangerous and putting history over the needs of safety was just not on in this modern environment.
Personally if the original is either:
a: Destroyed or b: Just too old and outdated to be rebuilt safely then one "certified" replica built in the spirt of the original (like Gossy did with his Falcon) should be OK.
BTW re Thommos new toy the story about it and the interview he did on tonight's In Pit Lane will be up on the latest podcast by tomorrow lunchtime.

inpitlane · 23 Oct 2007, 15:22 (Ref:2049264)

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Originally Posted by inpitlane

BTW re Thommos new toy the story about it and the interview he did on tonight's In Pit Lane will be up on the latest podcast by tomorrow lunchtime.

Matter of fact it's up already. Just go to iTunes and search for In Pit Lane.

Camaroz · 23 Oct 2007, 21:36 (Ref:2049683)

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Originally Posted by inpitlane

It is if they don't allow replicas. Everything from the original is gone and if you had to sacrifice another McLaren M10b to rebuild it then that'd be a disgrace.

My theory to replace "Lost Cars" is this...

The Corvair! Last owner was Allan Grice. Allan Grice should have the right to build a replica. If he should choose not to, he could pass on authority to a person who would be willing to build the car.

Thommo's Torana Chev! Last owner was the Lusty Bros. They would have the right to build a replica. If they choose not to, they could pass on authority to a person who would be willing to build the car.

The issue of the "Authority" would be subject to an agreement between the last owner and interested person, this could involve financial consideration.

This proposal was part of my plans should the Historic Sports Sedan Register be controlled by the ASSA.

BRUT33 · 24 Oct 2007, 05:07 (Ref:2049857)

and if the current owners of cars such as Moffats Mustang and Janes Repco-Torana choose not to race the originals, then they should be able to build replicas to preserve their cars

Peter Nightingale · 24 Oct 2007, 05:20 (Ref:2049859)

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Originally Posted by BRUT33

and if the current owners of cars such as Moffats Mustang and Janes Repco-Torana choose not to race the originals, then they should be able to build replicas to preserve their cars

NO, NO, & A BIG NO....

johnny yuma · 24 Oct 2007, 07:08 (Ref:2049894)

Was Moffats Mustang ever a Sports Sedan? (apart from the fact it was always a sports sedan !! )

BlueMax · 24 Oct 2007, 07:25 (Ref:2049908)

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Originally Posted by johnny yuma

Was Moffats Mustang ever a Sports Sedan? (apart from the fact it was always a sports sedan !! )

Yes 1973,1974 and early 1975 before the Capri came

Peter Nightingale · 24 Oct 2007, 07:31 (Ref:2049916)

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Originally Posted by BlueMax

Yes 1973,1974 and early 1975 before the Capri came

The Capri also was also a s/s.......

db120176 · 24 Oct 2007, 07:53 (Ref:2049932)

Phil Ward's Monaro please

Camaroz · 24 Oct 2007, 11:38 (Ref:2050117)

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Originally Posted by BRUT33

and if the current owners of cars such as Moffats Mustang and Janes Repco-Torana choose not to race the originals, then they should be able to build replicas to preserve their cars

I am talking about cars that are "lost"!

The Moffat Mustang, whilst ran in SS, was always an "Improved Tourer" that turned into a SS. You cannot have two cars!!!!!

The Jane Torana is an interesting case!

If the current owner (Willy) wanted to present the car as the original Jane Torana he would need a 4.4 Repco. If he wanted to present the car as Frank Gardner (chopped it up) raced it (still BJRT), it would have to run a 5Lt Chev, regardless, as the car still exists, nominate the year and present it as such, Ian Diffen etc, etc.

Harrop's EH, as the yellow 6 Cyl, BJRT Repco powered or the Wayne Mahnken 6 Cyl Turbo or the Stewie Douglas Turbo with the wing????? As the car still exists, nominate your configeration!

johnny yuma · 24 Oct 2007, 12:34 (Ref:2050160)

Would that recent recreation of Brock's A30 get a guernsey ??

Random cars--Harry Lefoe's V8 Hillman Imp
Any of Barry Sharp's creations
Frank Ure's Torana/P76 recent MCM show n shine
Bill Warner's 7 litre 57 Chev
The late Terry Hook's FJ Lightweight.
One of the "big" minis-Leffler,Manticas et al.
James Smith's Rover V8
A Hollowed out Anglia driven by a drunken maniac (PLENTY OF CHOICE THERE)

inpitlane · 24 Oct 2007, 12:59 (Ref:2050174)

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Originally Posted by johnny yuma

Would that recent recreation of Brock's A30 get a guernsey ??

Random cars--Harry Lefoe's V8 Hillman Imp
Any of Barry Sharp's creations
Frank Ure's Torana/P76 recent MCM show n shine
Bill Warner's 7 litre 57 Chev
The late Terry Hook's FJ Lightweight.
One of the "big" minis-Leffler,Manticas et al.
James Smith's Rover V8
A Hollowed out Anglia driven by a drunken maniac (PLENTY OF CHOICE THERE)

Barry Sharp's Jaguar is in the Jag car club rooms in Springvale, Don't know if it's a runner though.
My additionsw to the list.
David Robertson's Capri and Jim Keogh's ex Tubby Ritter Capri

**GTRMagic** · 24 Oct 2007, 13:01 (Ref:2050176)

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Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

Seems like ages ago I recall seeing a photo of Bryan beside a rusty pile of old VW....have I missed something

Much nicer to remember it like....

racer69 · 25 Oct 2007, 07:01 (Ref:2050852)

How many Corvairs were there?

Did it/they survive the Grice/Gardner split?

db120176 - Wasn't Ward's Monaro the ex-Bob Jane one?

Amonfan · 25 Oct 2007, 07:11 (Ref:2050859)

Racer69, Ward's Monaro was the ex jane car, later run by Tino Leo..
There were 2 Corvairs to my knowledge, the Gardner/Grice version and the Les Swalllow 4 door version...

**GTRMagic** · 25 Oct 2007, 07:58 (Ref:2050885)

Soem very nice Corvair shots Here

Camaroz · 25 Oct 2007, 11:41 (Ref:2051037)

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Originally Posted by Amonfan

Racer69, Ward's Monaro was the ex jane car, later run by Tino Leo..
There were 2 Corvairs to my knowledge, the Gardner/Grice version and the Les Swalllow 4 door version...

I'm sure Les Swallow still has the 4 door!

It is interesting to read that the acolades for the Corvair were all for Frank. While he did the job of finishing the car and punting it more than well, Henry Nebricki (spelling!) came up with the concept and started the construction! John Anderson actually finished off the car and Frank paid the bills. Ando is still in the US but does anyone know where Henry is?

Chris - Melb · 25 Oct 2007, 22:36 (Ref:2051570)

There is a pic of the remains of the Bryan Thomson VW here.

http://members.tripod.com/motorsport...an_thomson.htm

I have to manually 'copy' and then 'paste' the web address on to your web browser address bar.

Bryan Miller · 25 Oct 2007, 23:48 (Ref:2051594)

Henry is at Chavel Motors P.L.,Leighton Place Hornsby NSW.

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