BTCC 2019 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 97

porsche962fan · 19 Dec 2018, 09:50 (Ref:3871343)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Still confused by the ??s

Two against Matt Neal, but none against Cammish?
Jordan listed at WSR but not Turkington?

Could you explain the strength of these assumptions please?

Cammish we have clear hints from Steve Neal that he stays when they announced their Porsche expansion

Matt Neal it's extremly likely that he will stay but no actual words or hints so far

Jordan we have that article that he will likely stay but no real word that he will actually do , also there are hardly any better teams he could go to

Turkington we know he has WCTR offers and traditionally he loses his WSR seat after becoming champion

still confused ?

billy bleach · 19 Dec 2018, 10:02 (Ref:3871344)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Cammish we have clear hints from Steve Neal that he stays when they announced their Porsche expansion

Matt Neal it's extremly likely that he will stay but no actual words or hints so far

Jordan we have that article that he will likely stay but no real word that he will actually do , also there are hardly any better teams he could go to

Turkington we know he has WCTR offers and traditionally he loses his WSR seat after becoming champion

still confused ?

Where is Nic Hamilton ending up?

Pdh · 19 Dec 2018, 10:11 (Ref:3871346)

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Originally Posted by Robin Marriott

I’m a bit disappointed Goff isn’t in one of the Civics but I guess money talks.

Well of course money talks, someone needs to pay for the cars to race, but at least with it being tordoff they have a good budget and a fast driver

Evantra · 19 Dec 2018, 10:17 (Ref:3871347)

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Originally Posted by Robin Marriott

I’m a bit disappointed Goff isn’t in one of the Civics but I guess money talks.

I know he's in a simiar situation every year but honestly I think we may lose Jack for 2019. There really aren't very many seats going (at least that we know of) and of course he's always struggled with budget. Would be a huge shame if he did miss out.

Thankfully, I'm nearly always wrong with my predictions!

JDMROB · 19 Dec 2018, 10:24 (Ref:3871349)

AMD have a great line up there. Rory is one of the best on the grid.

Goff at Motorbase with Chilton would be a good fit. Obviously only if Goff has enough backing. If I was Dave Bartrum I'd be doing all I can to get him involved.

Where are we going to see Ollie Jackson? He talks about "the next step" which is interesting. I reckon he's doing something not BTCC related.

MagicBoy · 19 Dec 2018, 10:35 (Ref:3871352)

90% certain Ollie will be at Motorbase. He raced for Bartie in the Porsche Supercup. 2010? Shame he won't be in an AMD Honda, would like to see what he could do with it.

Butcher and Tordoff are a strong lineup for AMD. Plenty of time for both of them.

btccbloke · 19 Dec 2018, 10:38 (Ref:3871353)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Cammish we have clear hints from Steve Neal that he stays when they announced their Porsche expansion

Matt Neal it's extremly likely that he will stay but no actual words or hints so far

Jordan we have that article that he will likely stay but no real word that he will actually do , also there are hardly any better teams he could go to

Turkington we know he has WCTR offers and traditionally he loses his WSR seat after becoming champion

still confused ?

Perhaps if you want to keep your list going you should restrict to just confirmed seats. Otherwise this question mark system is just your opinion which has been incorrect before (listing Jake Hill next to these Civics)

There has been nothing from Jordan/WSR to confirm this and whilst "likely" by your own admission we have no firm detail on Neal

btccbloke · 19 Dec 2018, 10:39 (Ref:3871354)

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Originally Posted by MagicBoy

90% certain Ollie will be at Motorbase. He raced for Bartie in the Porsche Supercup. 2010? Shame he won't be in an AMD Honda, would like to see what he could do with it.

Butcher and Tordoff are a strong lineup for AMD. Plenty of time for both of them.

I would wager the Motorbase Ford is going to be ahead of the AMD Civics so I'm interested what he can do there!

Matt K · 19 Dec 2018, 10:48 (Ref:3871355)

For AMD this is definitely a step up and the lineup should be competitive. I'm happy that Rory will stll drive for them as he's proved to be talented and fast. But I can't understand Tordoff's decision. Staying at Motorbase would give him stability and Focus was really fast last year, Sam just didn't find luck. AMD is still nothing more than mid pack team with occasional flashes and switching to Hondas doesn't mean that they will be in front.

What I really wonder about is who will drive for Motorbase. Chilton is in I assume, but Torfoff out, Cole probably out. Is Shredded Wheat still onboard?

And shame not to see Goff at AMD. Maybe he can move to Motorbase or PMR but unfortunately I'm afraid he won't be able to find a decent seat in 2019.

porsche962fan · 19 Dec 2018, 10:52 (Ref:3871356)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

Perhaps if you want to keep your list going you should restrict to just confirmed seats. Otherwise this question mark system is just your opinion which has been incorrect before (listing Jake Hill next to these Civics)

There has been nothing from Jordan/WSR to confirm this and whilst "likely" by your own admission we have no firm detail on Neal

I don't understand why there is such problem understanding it

bold are fully confirmed with press releases

question mark are what they are , stongly rumored or logical deduced , they can be wrong or later confirmed

as time moves on and more press releases come out it will become bolder and bolder and question marks start dissapear

sceptic · 19 Dec 2018, 11:03 (Ref:3871359)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

If Cole is out then we have a Focus going spare.... Goff? Coates? Epps? Hamilton? Plato..?

Yes, one of them.

MagicBoy · 19 Dec 2018, 11:03 (Ref:3871360)

Goff has talent. It was good to see a Clio champ get into the BTCC with the stickerbomb special. Some personality traits shown in the last couple years give me the impression he probably won't be missed in the paddock, which is an issue when you're running out of options.

Steel Wheels · 19 Dec 2018, 11:07 (Ref:3871361)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Yes, one of them.

Hamilton?

sceptic · 19 Dec 2018, 11:12 (Ref:3871363)

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Originally Posted by Steel Wheels

Hamilton?

Perhaps.

btccbloke · 19 Dec 2018, 11:17 (Ref:3871366)

Not strictly driver related but I am interested following the demise of Eurotech if "Wix" suddenly appears as a title sponsor for a team, especially if Jack Goff has been able to get himself cosy with them. They must carry a huge chunk of budget that would help some of the smaller teams out

Steel Wheels · 19 Dec 2018, 11:17 (Ref:3871367)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Perhaps.

He’s the only one with enough funding, Goff sadly looks like he won’t be on the grid, Coates & Epp’s I’ve heard are looking elsewhere to race.

That would give a mixed line up of Chilton, Ollie Jackson & Hamilton at Motorbase!?!

sceptic · 19 Dec 2018, 11:20 (Ref:3871368)

How about we stop putting question marks in front of things that aren't in doubt

MG - Excelr8 Motorsport - ?
MG - Excelr8 Motorsport - Rob Smith

Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Mike Bushell
Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Bobby Thompson
Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Carl Boardley
Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Michael Crees

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Mercedes A - Ciceley - Adam Morgan
Mercedes A - Ciceley - Dan Rowbottom

Mercedes A - Laser Tools - Aidan Moffat

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish

Honda Civic - BTC Norlin - ???????????
Honda Civic - BTC Norlin - ?

Honda Civic - Simpson Racing - Matt Simpson

Honda Civic - AMD - Sam Tordoff
Honda Civic - AMD - Rory Butcher

Audi S3 - Trade Price Cars Racing - Jake Hill
Audi S3 - Trade Price Cars Racing - ?????????

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ??????????
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ????????

BMW 125 - WSR - Tom Oliphant
BMW 125 - WSR - Colin Turkington?
BMW 125 - WSR/Pirtek Racing? - Andrew Jordan ?

BMW 125 - Team Parker - Stephen Jelley

Ford Focus - Motorbase/Shredded Wheat - Tom Chilton ?
Ford Focus - Motorbase/Shredded Wheat - Ollie Jackson ?

Ford Focus - Motorbase/??? - Nic Hamilton ?

Subaru Levorg - BMR - Ash Sutton
Subaru Levorg - BMR - ???????????

Robin Marriott · 19 Dec 2018, 11:37 (Ref:3871370)

Sutton, Neal, Jelley, Morgan and Simpson haven’t been confirmed in any press releases though, that’s the point. They’re heavily speculated and expected but not cast iron confirmed. I don’t find it hard to follow the list? The ones in bold have been confirmed in press releases, the ones without question marks are almost 100% likely and the ones with question marks are rumoured.

Robin Marriott · 19 Dec 2018, 11:39 (Ref:3871371)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

Not strictly driver related but I am interested following the demise of Eurotech if "Wix" suddenly appears as a title sponsor for a team, especially if Jack Goff has been able to get himself cosy with them. They must carry a huge chunk of budget that would help some of the smaller teams out

Well, the Motorbase cars are yellow...

btccbloke · 19 Dec 2018, 11:41 (Ref:3871372)

WOW! considering i felt we were off to a slow start theres only actually 12 seats to be confirmed now!

MagicBoy · 19 Dec 2018, 11:56 (Ref:3871373)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

WOW! considering i felt we were off to a slow start theres only actually 12 seats to be confirmed now!

... and none of them HARD!

btccbloke · 19 Dec 2018, 12:02 (Ref:3871376)

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Originally Posted by MagicBoy

... and none of them HARD!

Ahh they will swap them about as the season goes on, they dont count

AmD Tuning · 19 Dec 2018, 12:03 (Ref:3871377)

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Originally Posted by Robin Marriott

I’m a bit disappointed Goff isn’t in one of the Civics but I guess money talks.

I agree in most cases but definitely NOT in this case.
I've worked hard to get team sponsors onboard so I have more influence on our driver line-up.

Greem · 19 Dec 2018, 12:38 (Ref:3871384)

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Originally Posted by AmD Tuning

I agree in most cases but definitely NOT in this case.
I've worked hard to get team sponsors onboard so I have more influence on our driver line-up.

And a good lineup you've got, too. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Civics run next season.

You're going to need some big jackets though if you want to get the full sponsor & team embroidered across the shoulders

porsche962fan · 19 Dec 2018, 13:15 (Ref:3871389)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

WOW! considering i felt we were off to a slow start theres only actually 12 seats to be confirmed now!

actually only 11 fully confirmed

there was no press release for Adam Morgan but this article let it slip

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Rowbottom, who was a three-time race winner in the one-make Renault series in 2018, will line up alongside the team's regular driver Adam Morgan next season.

"We have been talking to the guys at Ciceley for a while and I have a really good feeling about the team and it will be great to be able to learn from Adam Morgan who has proved that the Mercedes-Benz A-Class is a winning car.

https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...-mercedes-seat

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