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Old 7 Mar 2004, 00:39 (Ref:896401)   #1
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For Speed Channel People -- Brazil 1994 Tonight!

Before tuning in to find out whether TGF wins or whether TGF wins, if you can get Speed Channel, tune in at 8:30 EST for a look at the 1994 Brazilizn Grand Prix and remind yourself what F1 is supposed to look like. And to get another look at Senna albeit in a terrible car.

Not to mention another look at TGF in a mullet.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 00:46 (Ref:896404)   #2
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I used to have that race on tape for some reason (i never tape the grand prixs)
My most vivid memory of it is that huge accident Brundle, Irvine and Verstappen had...
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 00:49 (Ref:896406)   #3
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I've just watched the BBC highlights of it last week, and it really brings home to me how important Senna was to Brazil. The support was fantastic.......and it's really weird watching him drive that Williams, the car he was to die in.

When he spun out the crowd left in spades! Totally lost interest!
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 01:43 (Ref:896421)   #4
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The other thing i remember is how many more teams there were, Simtek, Larrouse, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrell, Footwork (Arrows), Pacific. All gone now.

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Old 7 Mar 2004, 01:48 (Ref:896426)   #5
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They still had pre qualifying I think!
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 01:59 (Ref:896432)   #6
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nope no pre qualifying in 94 , that stopped towards the end of 92.

they had qualifying and 2 cars failed to qualify in brazil 94.

Ratzenberger in the Simtek and Belmondo in the Pacific.

was an interesting race and the big crash was just a terrible thing to see.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 02:12 (Ref:896440)   #7
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I'm pretty sick of Liz' comments about F1 always being an insult...
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 02:58 (Ref:896448)   #8
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Stephen, we don't really appreciate such comments here.

I caught the broadcast and it was swell. Almost as much fun as I remember.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 04:54 (Ref:896521)   #9
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Did anyone catch a look at Brabham?
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 05:19 (Ref:896547)   #10
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Re: For Speed Channel People -- Brazil 1994 Tonight!

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Before tuning in to find out whether TGF wins or whether TGF wins, if you can get Speed Channel, tune in at 8:30 EST for a look at the 1994 Brazilizn Grand Prix and remind yourself what F1 is supposed to look like...
Who won the Brazilian GP in 1994?

The cars do look a lot better. However the racing in '94 was not amazing amazing. Not that much different to now - in fact I think teh mid '90s was pretty poor in that respect.

However in 1994 they had just banned TC etc... which is nice

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Old 7 Mar 2004, 05:44 (Ref:896575)   #11
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I'm with you Stephen...
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Anyway, we could just talk about Brazil 1994...
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Re: Re: For Speed Channel People -- Brazil 1994 Tonight!

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Who won the Brazilian GP in 1994?

However in 1994 they had just banned TC etc... which is nice
They had banned everything that Williams had developed, putting them behind the 8-ball.

Senna qualified .3 of a second ahead of this German bloke, and after a very "quick" fuel stop, this German dude got in the lead, and Senna spun off letting schumacher win by 1 lap over hill. 4 laps ahead of BRABHAM!

edit: I don't like talking about this year, but check out the grid.
Senna 1:15.962 (Williams)
Schumacher 1:16.290 (Benetton)
Alesi 1:17.385 (Ferrari)
Hill 1:17.554 (Williams)
Frentzen 1:17.806 (Sauber)
Morbidelli(!) 1:17.886 (Footwork)

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Old 7 Mar 2004, 11:55 (Ref:896909)   #14
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Frentzen 5th on the grid, on his GP debut as well. I'd forgotten that. And that Arrows was a seriously good car, butthey couldnt afford to develop it, so it was near the tail end by the end of the year.
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Old 7 Mar 2004, 12:06 (Ref:896926)   #15
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Oh and with '94 with the raft of changes, some of the smaller teams got shafted, particuarly after one team bought a bunch of stuff of williams (Aerodynamic stuff) only for it all to be outlawed 3 races later...
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Re: For Speed Channel People -- Brazil 1994 Tonight!

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... a look at the 1994 Brazilizn Grand Prix and remind yourself what F1 is supposed to look like.
Watched it and enjoyed it, although maybe I didn't pay enough attention because I failed to see much of a difference in the quality of the drivers or the racing between then and now. Schumacher looked great, Senna made a bad mistake, Verstappen caused an unnecessary accident that was blamed on Irv the Swerve. Lot's of neat sparks flying out from the untertrays. What else did I miss?
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I watched the Speed Channel rebroadcasts this past winter of the 1993 season. While there was some additional action (sparks, slicks etc) the actual racing was almost the same as now: a few well-funded teams dominating the races and more often than not a parade.

When David Hobbs and Steve Matchett reviewed the grids pre-race there were indeed more teams. Unfortunately most of them were so far off the pace it was ridiculous. More teams made for more traffic, but not necessarily more/better racing. Their assessments and memories of the quality of many of those teams is a valuable reminder that more is not necessarily better.
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