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Then of course around COTF time there were discussions with a raft of manufacturers, Nissan & Volvo jumped in others chose not to. Clearly those that chose not to would have their own reasons for doing so but the various head honchos at V8 Supercars over the years have talked about getting other manufacturers involved and gone down the path with those manufacturers. The fact that it hasn't borne fruit (other than Nissan & Volvo with maybe half a jump for Benz) is another thing entirely...... |
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Why wasn't the BMW E34 540i (with suitable increase in stroke or bore) invited to compete in 1993? Surely that was inexcusable given BMW's commitment to the ATCC.
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Basically the V8 formula was forced upon CAMS by Ford and Holden in cahoots with Channel 7. While a concession was made to allow the M3 to continue to race in 1993, in reality it was never going to be allowed to be competitive, and was probably only allowed in to snuff out a 2 litre series, of which BMW were likely to be the biggest supporter. At that stage Ford and Holden had a combined 50% market share (how times have changed), so thus more pulling power and no intention of sharing the limelight with or playing second fiddle to any other manufacturers.
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IIRC the team already had an E36 which Paul Morris drove in the 1992 Adelaide GP support races.
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Because they weren't given an alternative
They wanted to upgrade to the E36 body shape but that was denied. Quote:
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The other question now that the car market has changed so much in Australia is of those big manufacturers at the top of sales sheets, what exactly if any is their interest in motorsport currently. If there isn't any interest, then why waste your time catering to them? Do whatever the hell you want to appeal to the crowds in that case. |
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We already in Australia have a hugely popular category called Touring Car Masters which often supports the V8s race meetings, and indeed features many ex V8 Supercars drivers such as Richards, Bowe, Johnson jnr and Seton. We also have an enormous range of Historic Touring Car categories.
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Dealer putting on a brave face there.
It's going to be much harder for them now, without having a volume seller. |
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You wouldn't consider Holden as your flagship franchise anymore.
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Holden drops to No 8 on the sales list in Feb, just 30 ahead of another importer, Kia
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Will Holden exist in 7 years time?
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