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Old 28 Jun 2004, 11:31 (Ref:1608042)   #26
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I'm almost afraid to add to this dauntingly complex thread but Adam Ferrington provided me with these notes from his hill climb records:

1981 - Norman Galbraith - Chevron B48-79-10 (ex De Dryver/RAM)

1982 - Ray Rowan - Chevron B48-79-04 (ex Terry Fisher)

1983 - Richard Brown - Chevron B49-79-02

1984 - Chris Knapman - Chevron B49-79-02 (ex-Brown)
1984 - Lyn Whitehead - Chevron B38-77-02
1984 - Richard Ames - Chevron B40-77-08

1987 - Stuart Ridge - Chevron B48-79-04 (ex Fisher, Rowan)
1987 - Dave Whitehead - Chevron B49-79-02 (ex-Brown)

Sorry if the B38 and B40 belong elsewhere. And yes, that Galbraith number really is a 10.

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Old 28 Jun 2004, 11:56 (Ref:1608043)   #27
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Blimey Allen, some interesting stuff there. On the Norrie G car, I don't recall him in a B48 at all, was he out much in it that year? Perhaps he got it when Robin Smith bought Chevron and took it all up North. Also is Adam sure on B48-10, I thought we'd agreed only 8 were made, and the RAM/de Dryver car was -06.

On the Rowan car, again I'm dubious. First I don't remember him in a B48 at all, second didn't Fisher have a B42 NOT a B48 ? Third, wasn't -04 the Stohr car, if so I wonder how it got back here, IIRC it was used occasionally in 1980 by some Italian.

Next, the Brown/Knapman/Whitehead car. I do recall these chaps in a 'B49' I'd always assumed it was a converted B47 F3 one. If they did have a real B49, it must be one of the Opert/Tolama cars, as Jeffrey's Hope Scott car was 01, and Lawrence's Far East one 04. If it was a B49, I wonder where the B47s all went ?

Any views Jeremy/Chris et al ???????
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Old 28 Jun 2004, 12:02 (Ref:1608044)   #28
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I can email Adam some questions. I guess the 48-10 bit is worth checking, isn't it? And Rowans's B48-04?

I would trust Adam on this as he's always struck me as highly meticulous.

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Old 28 Jun 2004, 12:47 (Ref:1608047)   #29
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Dan,

My 1981 notes (primarily from Autopsort & MN), have Galbraith driving a B48 fairly regularly. Occasionally referred to as a B48S, but no identity unfortunately.

I have Rowan in 1983 events in a B45... Now B45-04 would make sense... wouldn't it?
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Old 28 Jun 2004, 13:21 (Ref:1608051)   #30
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Jeremy, I stand corrected on the Norrie B48 issue, but B48-10 ???. Wasn't he killed later on driving, or am I getting mixed up, many apologies if I have. Rowan in B45-04 makes complete sense, given that car's history, you're right.
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Old 9 Dec 2004, 21:29 (Ref:1608064)   #31
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Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson's email to me
Allen, in the ubiquitous Chevron B29 thread on Ten Tenths you mention that you don't need information about Hillclimb Chevron B48s and B49s. Does this mean you can help with the following?

1) 1988 Steve Jewell's B48 - believed ex Bobby Rahal (I understand he owned the ex-Huub Rothengatter chassis as well).
2) 1993 Roger Kilty/John Roberts' B49 then running a 1.6 BDA

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I do?!

I may be referring to the fact that Adam gave me a list of hillclimb chassis plate observations and that those include:

Norman Galbraith (1981) B48-79-10 ex-De Dryver/RAM
Ray Rowan (1982) B48-79-04 ex-Terry Fisher
Richard Brown (1983) B49-79-02
Chris Knapman (1984) B49-79-02 ex-Brown
Stuart Ridge (1987) B48-79-04 ex-Fisher, Rowan
Dave Whitehead (1987) B49-79-02 ex-Brown

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Old 8 May 2005, 12:21 (Ref:1295635)   #32
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Chevron B48

Hi Guys and girls

I am trying to track the history of each of the Chevron B48's in particular chassis number 06. Would like to know who drove them when, and the results.

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Old 8 May 2005, 13:01 (Ref:1295674)   #33
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You have of course seen this:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...ht=chevron+b48
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Old 9 May 2005, 06:36 (Ref:1296279)   #34
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Thanks David

I was aware of that thread but there appears to be no definate history on chassis 06.

I had been told that it was used at one stage by Rahal but is unconfirmed.

I want to check it out because my brother has owned the car for probably fifteen years and is now wanting to sell it. It would be good to know the history.
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Old 9 May 2005, 09:05 (Ref:1296378)   #35
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The known Rahal cars were chassis 1 and 5.
Chassis 6 is something of a gap: it may have been a Docking Spitzley car, may have been the original de Dryver car, but that begs the question as to why he then got chassis 10, or might indeed have been a third car for the works F2 effort.

Three questions that might help solve the provenance:
What colour is the original gel coat on the bodywork?
Who is the earliest owner you know, and where were they?
Any scrutineer's stickers anywhere?

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Old 9 May 2005, 11:07 (Ref:1296465)   #36
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Chris, I thought we'd agreed -06 was the RAM car, used once for Bernard de D, and once for Luyendijk. Seems to have disappeared then, perhaps it went downunder. Where do you get chassis 10 from for de Dryver ?
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Old 12 May 2005, 10:11 (Ref:1299041)   #37
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Steve Jewell's B48s

Steve Jewell hillclimbed and sprinted a B48 from 1988 onwards. He actually owned two chassis: a) the ex-Huub Rothengatter car, and b) the ex-Bobby Rahal car. He actually restored the Rothengatter car to the same stae Huub drove it in. Meanwhile the Rahal car had the sidepods removed and was painted a nice shade of blue.
Can anyone furnish the chassis number of the ex-Rahal car that Jewell drove?

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Old 12 May 2005, 11:14 (Ref:1299073)   #38
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Steve, at least 1 of the Huub cars, -03 and -07 we think, is apparently still downunder. The Rahal cars were -01 and -05. Both came to England in 1980, with Warren Booth and Roy Baker for Aurora. The 3rd ex works car, -08, was bused by Gaillard, Devaney, Jordan in 79, and in 80 went to Brain Robinson. He later built it into an Esprit GT car.

Which ones Jewell had I don't know, anything in 'Uphill Racers' ? Also are you sure Jewell's were B48s, might they have been a B49, or even B47???
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Old 12 May 2005, 15:03 (Ref:1299231)   #39
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Steve, at least 1 of the Huub cars, -03 and -07 we think, is apparently still downunder. The Rahal cars were -01 and -05. Both came to England in 1980, with Warren Booth and Roy Baker for Aurora. The 3rd ex works car, -08, was bused by Gaillard, Devaney, Jordan in 79, and in 80 went to Brain Robinson. He later built it into an Esprit GT car.

Which ones Jewell had I don't know, anything in 'Uphill Racers' ? Also are you sure Jewell's were B48s, might they have been a B49, or even B47???
Steve Jewell's cars were both B48s - he went on to race in the Derek Bell series with the Rahal car. They came with the Rothengatter and Rahal bodywork. I was able to provide photos of the two drivers at Thruxton (Easter Monday). The idea was that Steve could restore both cars to the state they had appeared in with Rothengatter and Rahal aboard. However having done this with Rothengatter's car he adapted the Rahal car to speed event standards (no sidepods, small radiator, etc).

I'll email a contact who might be able to get me in touch with either Steve or his mechanic!
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Old 12 May 2005, 23:42 (Ref:1299534)   #40
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Jewell has (or had) 07 and 08
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Old 13 May 2005, 10:25 (Ref:1299777)   #41
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Still got one at least!

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Jewell has (or had) 07 and 08
According to my contact Steve Jewell still has at least one Chevron (I suspect the ex-Rahal car). I am now awaiting a response to an email sent to Steve's compnay - so fingers crossed.

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Old 14 Jul 2005, 16:29 (Ref:1355551)   #42
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According to my contact Steve Jewell still has at least one Chevron (I suspect the ex-Rahal car). I am now awaiting a response to an email sent to Steve's compnay - so fingers crossed.

Did you get anywhere with this Steve ? If Jewell still has 07 & 08, I wonder which were the 2 that Alain de Wagter had/had. At least one was reputedly ex-Huub. Is this the same car ?
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Did you get anywhere with this Steve ? If Jewell still has 07 & 08, I wonder which were the 2 that Alain de Wagter had/had. At least one was reputedly ex-Huub. Is this the same car ?
Dan, I'll punt off another email! Had no response but suspect things have changed recently at Steve Jewell's work place.

On the question of ex-Rahal & ex-Rothengatter - these were the cars that Steve Jewell said they were and I provided photos to Steve of both cars at Thruxton in their original trim.

Fingers crossed for a result!
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Old 26 Sep 2005, 10:47 (Ref:1416729)   #44
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Jewell Chassis Numbers

My spies were in contact with Steve Jewell at Prescott on Sunday. The two cars that Steve ran were:

48-79-01 - ex-Rahal

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48-79-03 - ex-Rothengatter

According to my spies he still has both cars!

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Steve, the -01 car went to Roy Baker for Aurora/FAt in 1980-81, don't know after that. The ex Huub car, -03, no idea after 1979. Anyone know ?
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Steve, the -01 car went to Roy Baker for Aurora/FAt in 1980-81, don't know after that. The ex Huub car, -03, no idea after 1979. Anyone know ?
Steve Jewell was sprinting B48-79-01 in 1988, possibly also in 1987(?). It was in the 90s when I found out (a) whose car it had been and (b) that Steve also had the Rothengatter car.
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I think that one of the Rothengatter cars went to Ireland and the other to NZ, so I guess that 03 is the one from the Emerald Isle.
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When Steve Jewell took delivery of the Rothengatter car there were loads of oddball body bits. One of which was a sidepod 'painted all sorts of colours, like a test piece' I was able to provide Steve with photos of the car at Thruxton repleat with said side pods to prove that the rainbow effect was intentional.
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Old 28 Sep 2005, 12:13 (Ref:1418861)   #49
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Wasn't the 'rainbow effect' on the works/Rahal Ampex car, ie B48-79-01. IIRC the Docking/Huub car was all white.
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Wasn't the 'rainbow effect' on the works/Rahal Ampex car, ie B48-79-01. IIRC the Docking/Huub car was all white.
NO

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