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Old 28 May 2010, 01:25 (Ref:2699651)   #1
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HRT & BRR - New Transporters every year???

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Interesting to note the HRT & BRR transporters are seemingly renewed every year.

Whilst it might possibly be more economical for WP to re-lease transporters so frequently; it must also surely signal to the less well-off teams who has the most resources.

It might take more than the COTF concept to establish a more level playing field.
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Old 28 May 2010, 02:33 (Ref:2699671)   #2
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They swap the Prime Movers regularly not the whole unit.

In real terms the Prime Movers being used by V8 teams are low kilometre units compared with the units running up and down the highways every day so by swapping them regularly make them attractive as a "Demonstator" and the manufacturer wont lose as much money on the resale.
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Old 28 May 2010, 02:38 (Ref:2699673)   #3
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It is only the prime movers that are being replaced, recall that HRT received their current b-double in 2008. Often teams have contra deals with truck manufacturers for prime movers so WP may not be parting with any cash for them anyway. And seeing they accrue very low mileage by truck standards probably only being on the road for 30 days a year, the manufacturer would be able to sell it as a former HRT truck attracting a bit of a premium.
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Old 28 May 2010, 03:12 (Ref:2699682)   #4
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It is only the prime movers that are being replaced, recall that HRT received their current b-double in 2008. Often teams have contra deals with truck manufacturers for prime movers so WP may not be parting with any cash for them anyway. And seeing they accrue very low mileage by truck standards probably only being on the road for 30 days a year, the manufacturer would be able to sell it as a former HRT truck attracting a bit of a premium.
I think it will attract a premium anyway for the low mileage and condition. The teams keep them clean enough to enter into show and shine comp's.

Not something that most truck drivers would be interested in knowing it was a former HRT/BBR hauler. Chances are it would disappear into the hands on single truck operator, as most trucking companies custom paint there rigs, and never be seen again.

Anyway, most teams lease there rigs as it's easy to replace them on a regular basis. Some even hire there's, so they don't have a rig sitting around doing nothing for most of the year. Helps keep costs down at the end of the day. Trailers thou then to be outright purchases, as these then become assets. All I can say is if you run a race team, have a good accountant.
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Old 28 May 2010, 03:21 (Ref:2699685)   #5
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Most of the B-Double transporters are built in Shepparton in Northern Victoria.
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Old 28 May 2010, 03:35 (Ref:2699690)   #6
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Most of the B-Double transporters are built in Shepparton in Northern Victoria.
Shepparton Motor Bodies has built most of them...

...its interesting to understand that the Team Vodafone unit isnt actually new to them, being the ex-PWR unit that was built by SMB when the SuperCheap deal was signed there.

The transporter in use by Mr Fiore, being ex-Inta Racing, is actually the former Briggs/888 unit....

SBR now has a second trailer, similar to the first.. which still looks in great shape for entering its 8th season of use
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Old 28 May 2010, 03:56 (Ref:2699694)   #7
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I took a trip north from Brisbane last weekend and saw the T888 prime mover towing a messy looking B-Double plain white curtain-sider like it was doing a 'small crops' run.

It seemed odd to me the thought of them leasing it out to run during the week.
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I took a trip north from Brisbane last weekend and saw the T888 prime mover towing a messy looking B-Double plain white curtain-sider like it was doing a 'small crops' run.

It seemed odd to me the thought of them leasing it out to run during the week.
What kind of prime mover was it? I have seen a Team Vodafone liveried prime mover doing delivery work also, and it showed up at Winton with an ex-JDR transporter on its tail...
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Old 28 May 2010, 05:03 (Ref:2699706)   #9
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From memory (it was a couple of days ago and it was going past the other way meaning it was a 200kph pass) it was a cab-over design (no nose) decked out in all the chrome and red.
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The trailers full of Aussie Racers that arrived at Hidden Valley for thier recent run with the Australian Superbikes were being hauled by a couple of Team Voda prime movers.
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Interesting RE: Team Vodafone's apparent approach to making use of their transporter in between rounds.

It gets their sponsors' name out there on the roads; and makes having a $3M asset which would otherwise be sitting around, seem far less wanton.
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The truth be known, they are probably loaners from the manufacturer:

a) and when not used by Vodaphone are sent back to a dealer and used for other loan jobs; or

b) they are have done their K's as a loaner and have been sold on with the livery intact to promote the fact they (the manufacturer) sponsor 888

I used to work for a company that got loaners from Ford twice a year, we used them, sent them back to Ford who put them into dealers as "ex Ford executive" cars, we were not a Ford company.
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Interesting RE: Team Vodafone's apparent approach to making use of their transporter in between rounds.

It gets their sponsors' name out there on the roads; and makes having a $3M asset which would otherwise be sitting around, seem far less wanton.
Back in the 90's WGR's ( Wayne Gardner Racing ) transporter did the same thing, towing trailers around Syd during the non race weeks, used to see it all the time. So it is not a new practice.
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I to saw the 888 truck hauling an old b double through lismore last wednesday morning however goin by the photos above id say it was one of their old trucks as it was an iveco truck and had what looked to be the bamboo livery still on the rear of the cab to match the trailers. Looks like 888 now get their prime movers from M.A.N.
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It might take more than the COTF concept to establish a more level playing field.
Ummm, so are you suggesting a cap on the level of spending of transporters? No shiny truck and trailer can make your car go faster, surely?
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For the record, the HRT jigger was parked up in Fox St Winton this afternoon, waiting for the crowds & competitors to depart Historic Winton.



Obviously testing there tomorrow.
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having had quite a bit of experience with the clayton clans choice of prime mover i would turn them over very regularly too
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having had quite a bit of experience with the clayton clans choice of prime mover i would turn them over very regularly too
I`m hearin ya............. Turn them into something european instead methinks!!

Unless you don`t like the operator of course
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I`m hearin ya............. Turn them into something european instead methinks!!

Unless you don`t like the operator of course

Comes down to application marcos but i tend toward a completely local build and design rather than the germans and americans deciding what we should be thankfull to receive , having said these trucks are simply a promotional means to an end and really anything on the market should handle the very low annual kms and lighter gcm these transporters operate at. so if its free or cheap its good.
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