2020 TCR Series - Page 14

Umai Naa · 13 Aug 2020, 12:54 (Ref:3995144)

Toyota have one in the works via Argentina.

2 litre Touring Car Star · 13 Aug 2020, 12:55 (Ref:3995145)

There'll be many fans in Australia thrilled with the news.

crmalcolm · 13 Aug 2020, 13:02 (Ref:3995147)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

It is a pity, the car looked sexy and it would be nice to have a relevant Japanese car in the competition.

Honda, Toyota...

Mixer · 13 Aug 2020, 13:54 (Ref:3995160)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Honda, Toyota...

If the Toyota sees the light of day and runs here I will be surprised.

Compared to Mazda, Hyundai and Toyota, Honda is utterly irrelevant.

But so are Renault, Peugeot, Alfa...

If TCR had a Mazda 3, Corolla and Focus duking it out with the others, you could get owners of their cars interested.

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crmalcolm · 13 Aug 2020, 15:41 (Ref:3995198)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Compared to Mazda, Hyundai and Toyota, Honda is utterly irrelevant.

Interesting. Out of curiosity, why is Honda an irrelevant brand?

Is it just a sales figures question (I note that Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai models appear in the top ten for 2019)?

NaBUru38 · 13 Aug 2020, 17:19 (Ref:3995226)

Honda is a much larger company than Mazda.

crmalcolm · 13 Aug 2020, 17:27 (Ref:3995228)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Honda is a much larger company than Mazda.

I'm thinking it's because Mazda has the second highest share of the market in Australia.

2019 sales:
Toyota HiLux - 47,649
Ford Ranger - 40,690
Toyota Corolla - 30,468
Hyundai i30 - 28,378
Mitsubishi Triton - 25,819
Mazda CX-5 - 25,539
Mazda 3 - 24,939
Toyota RAV4 - 24,260
Kia Cerato - 21,757
Mitsubishi ASX - 20,806
Nissan X-Trail - 19,726
Toyota Prado - 18,335
Hyundai Tucson - 18,251
Mitsubishi Outlander - 17,514
Holden Colorado - 17,472
Isuzu D-Max - 16,892
Toyota Camry - 16,768
Subaru Forester -15,096
Mazda CX-3 - 14,813
Volkswagen Golf - 14,355

Car brand
Toyota 205,766
Mazda 97,619
Hyundai 86,104
Mitsubishi 83,250
Ford 63,303
Kia 61,50
Nissan 50,575
Volkswagen 49,928
Honda 43,868
Holden 43,176
Subaru 40,007
Mercedes-Benz 38,604
Isuzu Ute 25,311
BMW 23,307
Suzuki 17,310
Audi 15,708

Mixer · 14 Aug 2020, 03:43 (Ref:3995308)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Interesting. Out of curiosity, why is Honda an irrelevant brand?

Yes, they barely sell any cars and just shut 1/3 of their dealerships.

They have the new Type R which they can market around and they have motorsport heritage but they don't have a catchment like Toyota, Mazda, Hyundai, or many others.

Even with a brand new car that is probably the best they've had in a long time, they haven't cracked the top 10, with sales down 45% YoY.

Sitting behind Mitsubishi and Nissan who, lets face it look like they are on their last legs from a passenger car standpoint.

If you could get the top 4, Toyota, Mazda, Hyundai and Ford in, you'd have something awesome that could capture the heart and minds of people who buy those cars.

VW are already out, so it leaves one manufacturer out of the top-10 in Australia in TCR.

Umai Naa · 14 Aug 2020, 10:26 (Ref:3995352)

VW will probably launch their MK8 Golf TCR next year. They've cleared out their stock of MK7 TCRs.

Mixer · 14 Aug 2020, 10:27 (Ref:3995353)

They are out, to ETCR, to try to clean up their diesel gate image. Audi, too.

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crmalcolm · 14 Aug 2020, 10:49 (Ref:3995361)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

VW will probably launch their MK8 Golf TCR next year. They've cleared out their stock of MK7 TCRs.

Are you referring to the TCR model road car - or the TCR race car?

VW Withdraw From All Non-Electric Racing Activities

“Volkswagen Motorsport’s customer sport programme will be electrified,” a statement from Volkswagen read. “The first stage will involve different disciplines, platforms and vehicle types being examined and evaluated.

“Parallel to this, the production of the Golf GTI TCR for the racetrack will expire at the end of 2019, and a successor based on the new generation will not be offered.

“Customer service and spare parts supply will be guaranteed in the long term.”

bathurst77 · 15 Aug 2020, 06:23 (Ref:3995478)

https://tcraustralia.com/
still shows event at the creek this weekend, live on 7 tv

no update, nothing on tv!

come on they have had months layoff and they cant even update their website?
the local girl guides club can manage to do that!

Mixer · 20 Aug 2020, 00:51 (Ref:3996570)

Some teaser info about eTCR:

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⚡Revolutionary race format
⚡Cars start Side by Side
⚡“push-to-pass“ mode will ensure plenty of overtaking.

Sounds very much like Formula E

Are we going to have Facebook polls for which driver gets extra push-to-pass?

Funny that they call it Pure eTCR. This sort of stuff isn't pure at all.

NaBUru38 · 24 Aug 2020, 14:22 (Ref:3997632)

Pure randomness, I guess

Mixer · 15 Sep 2020, 08:06 (Ref:4002540)

I think the governing body is tone-deaf to the conditions of the market.

with VAG out and others on the fence they're going to make everyone integrate a new ECU and it is already causing issues between the competitors. Hyundai spent a bunch of money to get it to go, and a bunch of others just applied for exemptions and were granted them, and it just so happens they are winning.

The reasoning for the change is to allow stronger equalisation between the cars, but like the change to the gearbox, we are now increasing costs and moving further away from production-based racing and into bespoke racing cars.

After all this is exactly the kind of death of a thousand paper cuts that saw the winged EB and VP turn into the cut and shut COTF cars.