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Old 26 Jan 2021, 08:55 (Ref:4031248)   #151
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 11:21 (Ref:4031263)   #152
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Toto now saying it should be sorted soon once they get the final curveballs out the way, so that's good news
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 19:21 (Ref:4031340)   #153
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Was that Sun ,Mirror or Star?
Keep seeing this stuff from these wonderful rags,
Not sure anyone knows apart from main protagonists
I’ll make a prediction
If he’s at Bahrain there will be an agreement and if not probably had a bit of a tiff with his mates!
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 19:27 (Ref:4031341)   #154
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The curveball thing was in Autosport / Motorsport.com. That’s where I saw the thing about Toto testing positive for COVID.
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 19:31 (Ref:4031345)   #155
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Not sure if Autosport gets it from Rags or it’s other direction!
Not the same as when Gregor Grant used to invent situations. They really stirred stuff up with the teams.
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 19:44 (Ref:4031351)   #156
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The curveball thing was in Autosport / Motorsport.com. That’s where I saw the thing about Toto testing positive for COVID.

The Times today carried much the same story - whether by just echoing the Autosport story or from independent discussion, who knows. Sounded like it was just the complications of negotiation via Zoom rather than thrashing things out round a table
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 20:11 (Ref:4031358)   #157
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Not the same as when Gregor Grant used to invent situations. They really stirred stuff up with the teams.
A class act!

And a lovely man. Met him quite a few times as I was friend of one of his sons back in the 60s, and spent time with him in their home near Golders Green/Hampstead, North West London.
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Old 26 Jan 2021, 20:54 (Ref:4031368)   #158
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Used to miss occasional GP by being tired and emotional whilst it was happening.
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Lots of free booze around in those days!

Gregor is solely responsible for awakening what became my passion for four wheel motorsport - until then I thought I liked motor cycle racing (Castrol R is intoxicating) - and introduced me to Autosport to which I became a subscriber for about 40 years, even getting it delivered when I moved to Spain.
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Old 27 Jan 2021, 00:22 (Ref:4031390)   #160
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So.... Mr Russell to Mercedes, Mr Hamilton to Williams?

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Old 27 Jan 2021, 05:23 (Ref:4031408)   #161
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So.... Mr Russell to Mercedes, Mr Hamilton to Williams?

You can only dream of such a scenario, sure would get a bumper TV audience for Bahrain.
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Old 27 Jan 2021, 07:48 (Ref:4031415)   #162
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So.... Mr Russell to Mercedes, Mr Hamilton to Williams?

Hamilton to AM would of made more sense. A great British driver in a great British marque with a Merc engine to boot.
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Old 27 Jan 2021, 14:57 (Ref:4031506)   #163
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Lewis not having yet signed "IS" a story. They are likely not far apart. He probably will renew with Mercedes. Nobody really knows what the sticking points are.

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Old 27 Jan 2021, 15:06 (Ref:4031508)   #164
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Lewis not having yet signed "IS" a story. They are likely not far apart. He probably will renew with Mercedes. Nobody really knows what the sticking points are.

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'...an extraordinary situation'.....
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Old 27 Jan 2021, 19:14 (Ref:4031541)   #165
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'...an extraordinary situation'.....
I take (given the ROFL emoji) that you believe it is not? Is the fact that he doesn't have a contract at this late of a date not unusual or remarkable given who he is?

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It certainly is not unique in terms of high profile WDC's.... remembering Senna even went into and IIRC through the full 1993 season on a race by race contract with McLaren... admittedly with another seat in mind elsewhere (Williams) which in this case it seems is not an option in Lewis' mind. With Lewis the hiccup appears to be the package, whereas I think Senna was more about the car, the package being secondary to him.
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I take (given the ROFL emoji) that you believe it is not? Is the fact that he doesn't have a contract at this late of a date not unusual or remarkable given who he is?

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Yes, unusual, but in all the circumstances, I wouldn't consider it extraordinary. I have every expectation that it will be resolved and we'll be told that Hamilton will be back in the car for race 1.
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Yes, unusual, but in all the circumstances, I wouldn't consider it extraordinary. I have every expectation that it will be resolved and we'll be told that Hamilton will be back in the car for race 1.
I guess everyone has their opinions. I think it easily objectively meets a general definition of "extraordinary". Especially from a view of recent F1 history. Looking back to Senna in 1993. That is nearly three decades ago and in a different era. I guess if we look back that far, then nearly nothing can be said to be extraordinary these days. I might as well stop watching.

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I guess everyone has their opinions. I think it easily objectively meets a general definition of "extraordinary". Especially from a view of recent F1 history. Looking back to Senna in 1993. That is nearly three decades ago and in a different era. I guess if we look back that far, then nearly nothing can be said to be extraordinary these days. I might as well stop watching.

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It is 'extraordinary' in the context of a regular 'ordinary' person doesnt usually spend their summer (or winter) not knowing if they are coming back to work next year...
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Lewis is a victim of his own success. Sign here and you could be the first driver to be an eight times World Champion. Now we both know that this is only going to happen driving for us - Jesus H Lewis, you should be paying Mercedes Benz 40 Million per season not the other way round. The company holds all the good cards.
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It is 'extraordinary' in the context of a regular 'ordinary' person doesnt usually spend their summer (or winter) not knowing if they are coming back to work next year...
Really? I suspect that right now, there may be quite a few 'ordinary' people in just that situation.....

As I say, I defend my view that this isn't extraordinary. It's F1. It's money. It's prestige. It's standing in a team. I haven't the slightest doubt that it will be resolved and we'll forget all about it. The humble pie is warming on the stove, but I'm not peckish just yet.....
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It is 'extraordinary' in the context of a regular 'ordinary' person doesnt usually spend their summer (or winter) not knowing if they are coming back to work next year...
But the ordinary person does not have £400m in the bank and no need to ever work again!
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Lewis is a victim of his own success. Sign here and you could be the first driver to be an eight times World Champion. Now we both know that this is only going to happen driving for us - Jesus H Lewis, you should be paying Mercedes Benz 40 Million per season not the other way round. The company holds all the good cards.
Really? i see Lewis holding just as many cards. His personality, standing in the world is great advertisement for Mercedes and their key audience for car sales. Not only is he the face of their success, he has been a key part of it for the last several years.

Can Mercedes win without Lewis next year? probably.....2022? who knows.....but i would bet my bottom dollar they have a better chance WITH Lewis than without.

Both have as much to gain, and lose in this situation.
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