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Old 31 Jul 2005, 12:05 (Ref:1368167)   #1
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Craig Gore goes Global?

Interesting news item from the Crash Net site.
""Commitment to the Atlantic Series is the latest piece in the puzzle
for Team Australia's programme, which will incorporate six different
categories, racing in eight different countries, on four different continents next year

The total programme will be exposed to a live
audience of ten million fans, a TV viewing audience of more than 1.4
billion and produce a minimum of between five and six hours of branded
viewing. The full programme, including cars and drivers, is expected
to take a total investment of almost $20million and will be officially
launched in September"
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Old 31 Jul 2005, 12:40 (Ref:1368184)   #2
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A small hint from the other Gore thread
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Mr Gores sponshorship portfolio for next year includes:-

A v8 supercar team
A Champ Car team
A Toyota Atlantic team
A Formula BMW team

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Visa card is to make an appearence on some of Mr Gores stable around the world......maybe he is right...there is money in motorsport???
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Old 31 Jul 2005, 22:28 (Ref:1368584)   #3
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What is the eight different countries, on four different continents next year
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Old 31 Jul 2005, 23:34 (Ref:1368636)   #4
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I've got:
Austraila (V8 Supercars / Champcar)
N.Z. (V8 Supercars)
U.S.A (Champcar)
Canada (Champcar)
Mexico (Champcar)
China (V8 Supercars / Champcar)
South Korea (Champcar)

Missing one - either too early on Monday, I missed an official announcement about Bahrain or the Formula BMW runs somewhere seperate.

Not a bad coverage, especially getting associated with VISA on a world stage.
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Old 1 Aug 2005, 02:32 (Ref:1368693)   #5
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Formula BMW runs in Europe, so there's the other continent that was missing. Is Gore putting his finger into too many raspberry pies?
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Old 1 Aug 2005, 07:00 (Ref:1368759)   #6
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It's not his finger in the pie, it's the "company". The one thing that is 100% guaranteed is that Mr. Gore will not go bankrupt if all this turns to crap - that is the nature of the game.

If the companies have the advertising budget and the series reach the right audience then there is no reason to think that it will go pear shaped. Personally I wonder how many home loans / Visa Cards / Investment funds / Wine can be sold to your average motorsport punter, I guess that goes for pet food too. The good thing is that we now have at least 3 new sponsors.... considering HRT Team2 can't even get a sponsor that can't be a bad thing. Do we care if Fish Liquor goes broke?
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Old 1 Aug 2005, 14:29 (Ref:1369221)   #7
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I am not sure if Mr Gore has officially announced some of the teams for next year. I would be interesting to see the costings for everything that is listed.
.........and wasn't the v8 supercar card tied up with Visa so that must have been successful to carry it on as a sponorship deal.

Interesting times.
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Old 3 Aug 2005, 23:08 (Ref:1371495)   #8
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WPS are testing today at the PaperClip with Tagiliani and Marshall joining regular drivers Besnard and Baird. Pairings for the long distance races will be decided in the next couple of weeks.

The Formula Atlantic team will be a 2 car team.....the drivers have not been decided.

Apparently the Visa card sponsorship is being described as a *major link* with Gore's racing empire.
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Old 3 Aug 2005, 23:41 (Ref:1371513)   #9
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Will be interesting to see how Tagiliani goes. No doubt he will have offers on the table from other CC teams but hopefully we will have 2 Aussies in Team Aus next year.
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Old 4 Aug 2005, 01:42 (Ref:1371559)   #10
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I hate to see motorsport in the next 5 years, everything wil be sponsored by WPS, Fish Liquor or Aussie Wineyards.
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Old 4 Aug 2005, 04:08 (Ref:1371590)   #11
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I hate to see motorsport in the next 5 years, everything wil be sponsored by WPS, Fish Liquor or Aussie Wineyards.
would you prefer 6 Holden teams sponsored by variations of Mobil, HSV, Briante and Bridgestone?
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Old 4 Aug 2005, 04:54 (Ref:1371600)   #12
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It's good to see a sponsor like Visa card get on board.

....and then there is the rumoured link up with LP.
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I hate to see motorsport in the next 5 years, everything wil be sponsored by WPS, Fish Liquor or Aussie Wineyards.
Reality check. Sponsors keep motorsport going, without them we'd all be up the creek. Mr Gore's $$$$ are doing wonders for motorsport at the moment. He has put money towards local motorsport categories like V8 supercars but more importantly the smaller ones such as Aussie racing cars and carrera cup. I couldnt care less how many wps logos we see, wouldnt even mind see Channel WPS
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Old 4 Aug 2005, 08:50 (Ref:1371709)   #14
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The WPS test day might be covered on Sports Tonight as it made the news in Qld.
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It made fox sports early news. No mention of lap times though. MM commented on the massive breaking distances compared to what he has been driving lately.

Tags was saying he had to be careful not to over-drive the cars as it was quite easy to do.

Interesting to note they had the enduro drivers pairings listed on the windows

Bessy/Tags

Baird/Marshall

I know its quite easy to change a few stickers around, but i would expect the #1 pairing to be Baird and Marshall given MM has quite a fair bit more experience in a V8SC.

Tags and MM were in full team Aus apparel including caps which i thought might have whacked WPS ones on for a bit more exposure
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Old 7 Aug 2005, 00:53 (Ref:1374063)   #16
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Tags apparently was 2.5 seconds off the pace at the paperclip but did improve later in the day.............and he is expressing an interest in driving a supercar fulltime when champcar duties finish.

Looks like Tags and Bezzy will combine.
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I think that Tags might get Bezzy's seat next year. Because Mr Gore is disappionted with Besnard's performance.
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I think that Tags might get Bezzy's seat next year. Because Mr Gore is disappionted with Besnard's performance.
You really think Tagliani would give up a Champ Car ride to replace Besnard?
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I wonder if a revolving door makes it easier to change drivers at a pit stop?



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So what is the rationale behind bringing 2 V8Supercar-inexperienced drivers into the share drives with the 2 lead drivers?

Sure Mr Tagliani's involvement is good for the sport, for the enduro races, for the spotters of Mrs Tagliani... but fundamentally it is a large step from one discipline to the other, on foreign circuits (Sandown and Bathurst) where you cant have any testing... where you also wont get to run with 33 other maniacs on the same circuit at any one point.

Arguably it is like the "Paul Newman to Bathurst' stories of the much lamented ARDC Bathurst mythology....
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Except GTR Magic this somewhat farcical situation is going to be played out , unlike the mythical "Paul Newman" and his many supposed appearances at the Mountain.
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So is it the collective thought that Tags will let Besnard down or is it the other way around?
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Except GTR Magic this somewhat farcical situation is going to be played out , unlike the mythical "Paul Newman" and his many supposed appearances at the Mountain.
Of course... I wish the team and drivers well, but it is a very very different way to do things.... as well has burning one of the six test days playing these guys in....

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So is it the collective thought that Tags will let Besnard down or is it the other way around?
It depends... it is likely Mr Besnard is by now realising the enduros will have him driving for his career (unless Mr Murray has a 2006 seat already confirmed) so it may be hell for leather to get the so-far-recalcitrant cars up the grid in some sessions to show the world he still has the speed....

But the 2nd driver will likely make the enduro assault uncompetitive... which may see a rush of blood from the lead driver in the #48 car, and over drive it to make up the time lost... with not so positive consequences.

As I said, I would like to see them all work together swimmingly and competitively... but wouldnt like to put any money on that outcome....
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