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Old 15 Jul 2012, 12:30 (Ref:3106620)   #16
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Terence, The calipers are AP/Lockeed CP2279 44.5mm dia bores.
Very common in historic racing in Aus.
We are restricted to 13 inch wheels, so cannot go bigger.



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Old 15 Jul 2012, 13:07 (Ref:3106630)   #17
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It may be relevant to point out that the Group 2 Capri ran centre locks. This was the case from the early 2300 to the post 1976 MkII/III.

My Group 1 Capri MkIII runs AP calipers. The standard front brake set up for the Group 1 cars was the Granada vented disc and caliper.

The Group 2 cars ran 15" wheels and thus bigger brakes and calipers. I recommend anyone who is interested to get hold of the Homologation Certificate. All the information being discussed is in there in FIA stamped pictures.
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Old 15 Jul 2012, 17:45 (Ref:3106712)   #18
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Thanks again Carl,looks nicely sorted. I have some 15 inch wheels on order so obviously the wheels reflect the size of the brakes.Getting all of the 'bit's' together,slowly!.At least I have now finished the shell prepping,lightening ans stiffening,have a superb roll cage being made just 10 minutes away from our England house,convenient for when we get back.
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Old 16 Jul 2012, 09:17 (Ref:3106962)   #19
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Hi All,

I have just finished these off and shipped to a customer in Europe.

Photos of Gp2 RS 2600 (72 Works Spec) as promised.

These were also used on Gp2 and Gp5 Zakspeed Escort and Gp5 Zakspeed Capri.

The 73 and 74 Works capris ran different hub Hub/Upright Assemblies in both those years.

So 3 years 3 different Alloy Hub/Upright Assy. At least on the Works cars.

In NZ we are lucky enough to have an Original 72, 73 and 74 Works Gp2 Capris and a Zakspeed Gp5 Escort.

Will post photos of the 73 spec items soon.

Many parts have had to be remanufactured.

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Old 16 Jul 2012, 09:23 (Ref:3106968)   #20
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Bet you can't wait to try and find replacements,LoL. Thanks for the pictures though,they look very nice.
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Old 16 Jul 2012, 09:32 (Ref:3106972)   #21
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Hi Terence,

We build these in NZ.

Can't get them from Ford!!!
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Old 16 Jul 2012, 17:46 (Ref:3107274)   #22
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Hmmmm,tell me more!
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Old 16 Jul 2012, 21:32 (Ref:3107375)   #23
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Hi Terence,

The Original items on all the cars here were Magnesium and old not a good combo!!

We race the cars here so needed to reproduce these parts and many others.

I have a pair of Alloy units on my Zakspeed but have just finished off a pair of Mag units and will fit them for the upcoming season.

Photo of Leg in Escort, this is the same as the 72 Capri.

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Old 17 Jul 2012, 12:08 (Ref:3107523)   #24
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The Gp.2 Capri ran 4 stud wheels up to 1973 (RS2600) in 13" and 15", then in 1974 (RS3100) they switched to centrelock. I am also building a Gp.2 Capri clone, and manufacturing the BBS wheel centres at the moment which are NLA. Brakes were ATE on the original factory cars, but AP calipers were also homologated.

As Peter Mallett said, get hold of the relevant homologation docs, it is all in there in (badly photocopied) black and blue
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Old 17 Jul 2012, 14:46 (Ref:3107575)   #25
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Brain teaser for you.

The top pic is the '74 Group 2 Capri (note cooling pipes for radiators in wheel arches).

The bottom pic is a standard Capri.

Note the inner wheel arches on the racer have been replaced, probably with something from the Ford parts bin in 1973. My 1967/8 Allan mann escort built by Gomm used Transit inner wheel arches so I know this was relatively common practice.

Can anyone identify the inner arches in the pic?



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Old 17 Jul 2012, 14:52 (Ref:3107576)   #26
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Zak, could you scrounge some RS3100 bodyshell pics to post here? I'm about to start building a bodyshell for a semi-replica (rally car built to RS3100 homologation) and need to understand what was done for the rear suspension.

Any help appreciated.
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Old 17 Jul 2012, 15:03 (Ref:3107577)   #27
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Greg,do you not have the homologation forms for the period upto 74?
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Old 17 Jul 2012, 15:39 (Ref:3107589)   #28
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Greg,do you not have the homologation forms for the period upto 74?
Yup, have them all.

The 1971 Group 2 regs didn't regulate the 'non-visible' parts of the body or anything below the wheel hub CL. Technically all floorpan modifications were unrestricted and multiple links and extra springs could be added to the axle. The forms didn't need to show bits like the FIA and MSA now require 'period proof' for.

Hence my quest to get as much RS3100 'period proof' as I can in the form of pictures of period cars and then select what I need from that. I'd like my bodyshell to be completely Gp2 RS3100 with the exception of wheel arches and rear radiators (which could be added later if I ever sell the car).

Everyone who has ever driven a Capri knows that rear axle steer and lack of traction is a major challenge. I'm pretty sure if the rear axle is located correctly as per period Cologne cars that it could be a Cat 2 911 beater on tarmac. A 12-valve Essex engine will match the Porsche for torque and horsepower.
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Brain teaser for you.

The top pic is the '74 Group 2 Capri (note cooling pipes for radiators in wheel arches).

The bottom pic is a standard Capri.

Note the inner wheel arches on the racer have been replaced, probably with something from the Ford parts bin in 1973. My 1967/8 Allan mann escort built by Gomm used Transit inner wheel arches so I know this was relatively common practice.

Can anyone identify the inner arches in the pic?



Hahaa, just been trying to work out what those wheelarches are myself! Definitely not Transit as I first thought they might be, as I checked my Mk1 As you know it is a pressing, and will be hard (but not impossible) to fabricate.
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Old 18 Jul 2012, 08:08 (Ref:3107843)   #30
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Hi All,

I seem to remember they were Granada??? Look very close if not the same to the items in my Zakspeed.

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