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Old 14 Mar 2019, 05:35 (Ref:3890312)   #61
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It looks like the upper rod is a brace for the Panhard rod mount?
Yes, the extra tube is just a brace from the panhard tower across the car. When you use a panhard in conjunction with leaf springs there is a certain amount of conflict in movement, which can put extra strain on the mount.

E.B, profuse apologies for not thanking you for your pics as well. All the event photos make so much difference to those that weren’t there!
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Yes, the extra tube is just a brace from the panhard tower across the car. When you use a panhard in conjunction with leaf springs there is a certain amount of conflict in movement, which can put extra strain on the mount.

E.B, profuse apologies for not thanking you for your pics as well. All the event photos make so much difference to those that weren’t there!
No apologies needed Mike. But thanks. At least I now know that crawling around round the Escort on my hands and knees was worthwhile! (Cue rolling around on floor smiley)
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Know what E.B? I hate you! You dont need so much humor just for yourself. In fact I hate you twice because you look far too young!

Probably of few interest for many here but a Simca Versailles, Beaulieu or Chambered same base, only interior/exterior trims differ) was may be comparable to a Westminster but less powerful and more room for six. Mike explained to me why a Westminster can be fast but this Simca… I seem to recall some engine blocks had two water pumps but some details like the gear change mounted on the steering column or a three speed gearbox are not sporty… Isn't the driver Portuguese (no pun no nothing here) ?
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Know what E.B? I hate you! You dont need so much humor just for yourself. In fact I hate you twice because you look far too young!

Probably of few interest for many here but a Simca Versailles, Beaulieu or Chambered same base, only interior/exterior trims differ) was may be comparable to a Westminster but less powerful and more room for six. Mike explained to me why a Westminster can be fast but this Simca… I seem to recall some engine blocks had two water pumps but some details like the gear change mounted on the steering column or a three speed gearbox are not sporty… Isn't the driver Portuguese (no pun no nothing here) ?
There was a Vedette at the meeting, and there has been a quick Aronde in the past...

[Edit: Sorry, the whole thread was not appearing for me...Geoff Rose pilots the Aronde pictured at Winton]

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If I remember well the Simca Aronde is blue, right? During one of the first race I was attending an Aronde rolled twice in the Montlhéry chicane. Chicane meant straw balls… Funny days!
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If I remember well the Simca Aronde is blue, right? During one of the first race I was attending an Aronde rolled twice in the Montlhéry chicane. Chicane meant straw balls… Funny days!
Dare I suggest..."French Blue"??? :-)
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Yes very good! Its what we call "une Aronde à moustaches", previous model is said "ronde" and the last is a P60 with its whale type gril. I seem to remember that a "à moustaches" was pictured in a Tintin album, may be the famous reporter is in a taxi near Léman lake. Affaire Tournesol may be?
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Fantastic to see that even the wipers are converted from LHD to RHD.
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Fantastic to see that even the wipers are converted from LHD to RHD.
Perhaps originally the car pictured was from the near decade or so of Australian local Aronde manufacture?
1956-9 was CKD kits, albeit with plenty of local components, and 59-64 was full local manufacture in Adelaide at the Chrysler factory.
(Gérard, I think a while ago I sent you pics of the unique to Australia locally made P60 Aronde 5 door Station Wagon?)
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Absolutely E.B, thanks again. Before you mentioned it I was totally unaware of this local making. And you know I've always been fascinated by Simca former boss and founder, Henri Pigozzi. He was granted Oscar de la publicité for the launch of the P60. The station wagon called sometimes Ranch here had three doors not five (3,5 in fact). If you look closely to various SW Aronde models they often differ in the arrangement of the spare wheel depending on the intended use, pro or not.
Just look at a coupé Plein-Ciel Grand Carrossier and you'll see the influence of the T-Bird.
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Mister Pigozzi wanted his wife to be seen driving a Simca. One day he offered her a black Simca 1000 with a kind of leopard trim. Panhard had a tiger trim in those days. Because she was snobby he asked to the engineers to invent a name for the trim other than plastic or skaï making believe it was a kind of leather! What love can lead you to do… sometimes!
This story has to be confirmed tho!
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The station wagon called sometimes Ranch here had three doors not five (3,5 in fact).

As well as 5 doors, ours had a wind down tailgate window too!
The 3 door one looks more like a hearse than family car.

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Hey, isn't it a pic taken in France? I see Talbot Horizon and 4L. Re the winding rear window only one Renault 4 had one, certainly not the very exclusive Parisienne version. Another?

A hearse is a family car…*
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Yes we did not have the 3 door here. I just posted a pic of it to highlight the likeness to a hearse.

Herewith, our local production Aronde Estate.... with the rear window rolled down!

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You're quite a warrior! Looks like a berline P60 modified à la sauce Pichon Parat. Nice taste for the y-front you have I must admit!
Crocodile E.B!
As to the same thing on 4L I found R4 Super '62/63. My memory is not good since I rolled a R3 six times adjusting my hair "cut"! I couldn't complain having no driving licence…
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