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Old 10 Mar 2019, 17:33 (Ref:3889487)   #1
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Production Class BTCC

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just watching some of the BTCC review DVDs and wondered about the BTCC production class cars.

What sort of lap times did those cars do in period and how would they compare against the modern Clio Cup, or even NGTC or S2000 cars?

And who built them? Were they built by the powerhouses running the Super Touring manufacturer efforts (JAS or WSR for the Accord, RML for the Primeras)?

Watching 2000 season, they seem closer to the pace of the indy super tourers than I had expected...

And final question... where are they now?
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Old 10 Mar 2019, 20:03 (Ref:3889552)   #2
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Timing Solutions Limited carry results back as far as the 2002 season . If you go to tsl-timing.com/results/toca you will find all of the BTCC results up to the present day . The Super Production cars were approximately 5 to 6 per cent slower than the Touring car class ie they would be lapped every 15 to 20 laps .
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And who built them? Were they built by the powerhouses running the Super Touring manufacturer efforts (JAS or WSR for the Accord, RML for the Primeras)?
Bit of a mix really. Alfa Corse (via Bigazzi?) could sell you a complete car. BMW could sell you a kit. Bowman (VLR) built most of the Peugeots, GR built a number of Focuses, RJN built a few(?) Primeras, but you didn't have to buy in a car.

In many cases they were built in-house. You didn't need to be a Super Touring team with a multi-million pound CAD division, you just need to be able to bolt together already homologated parts. Something any competent team should be able to cope with.

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One of the GA Alfas has been running in the HSCC SuperTouring series in recent years, having previously been the basis for a Britcar/VLN car.

A couple of the early Peugeot 306s went to Asia, and are probably still there. Most of the later cars are still around. Not sure if they are still racing but a couple were in CSCC Tintops.

A couple of the GR Focuses were running in CSCC Tintops and Scottish Saloons.

I'm sure there's a few more floating around somewhere. Super Production was a fairly widespread category globally.
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Im trying to remember all the cars they had 200-03

Going in chronological order there was Peugeot (306), Honda (Accord/Integra/Civic), Nissan (Primera), Alfa Romeo (156), Toyota (Corolla), Ford (Focus), Mitsubishi (Carisma), Proton, BMW

The series attracted teams and drivers from the National Saloon Car Championship, which ended at the end of 2000, when it merged full time with the BTCC
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There was a Peugeot 307 as well.
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Cant remember the year but may be you had 406 too? Laurent Aello or William David or Soheil Ayari may be?
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