2014 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour: 7-9 February (Merged)

[rich07]

It was such a shame to see such leading contenders such as Scud, Clearwater and the Nismo GTR go out early in the race. But even in the absence of those strong cars the race was still awesome. I dearly hope all three teams return next year.

[peckstar]

So is it time for a kangaroo cull.

some thought in Bathurst that maybe it is

[david5]

From the race's point of view it's pointless doing it now and now it's rained the roos will move back further from town as there will be green pick for them back in the scrub, so it's a knee jerk reaction, which is why it's being fought by members of the local council.

[peckstar]

so is next January the time? (or maybe September for the 1000km)

[GROUPA]

ff s conscience

I read your post on the accident and lead up to Bathurst where you stated Tony didn't even drive the circuit beforehand.

Can you explain why he did not drive the circuit in a road car prior to practice ?

From your updates prior to the event it would appear you left no stone unturned with the preperation.

From looking at the one video I saw (in car) Tony was stradling the racing line and not going real fast.

Thanks in advance.

[D.R.T.]

I don't think the 12 hour promoter getting involved in plans for Kangaroo culls is a good move.

Leave it to the council or CAMS.

[david5]

Originally Posted by peckstar

so is next January the time? (or maybe September for the 1000km)

Well if you want to make the racetrack clear of Kangaroos, right up to start time is the only way, kangaroos not being into car racing don't know it's on so may wander in for a feed at any time. If you can come up with a 100 % foolproof way of getting rid of them please let the grain farmers of NSW know, Im sure they would be interested. The roos are looking for food, remove the feed, reduce the roos.

[ff s conscience]

Originally Posted by GROUPA

ff s conscience

I read your post on the accident and lead up to Bathurst where you stated Tony didn't even drive the circuit beforehand.

Can you explain why he did not drive the circuit in a road car prior to practice ?

From your updates prior to the event it would appear you left no stone unturned with the preperation.

From looking at the one video I saw (in car) Tony was stradling the racing line and not going real fast.

Thanks in advance.

He had no opportunity to drive it, he's a busy guy and the circuit was being resurfaced at the time we decided we'd enter.

At the event itself, again, logistics and other engagements meant no opportunity.

He bought a simulator, so was familiar with direction.

The half lap he did was behing Garth Walden in a cupS. He maintained a gap to him, which was a very sensible strategy for a first ever lap.

His line was a perfectly natural humans instinctive first ever lap, at that pace. Just a sighting lap to check his way around also considering NOBODY knew what mess awaited at the scene of the red flag immediately prior to stoppage.

Once he saw the Ferrari attempting to pass, he made efforts to make it easy and quick. Possibly even thinking he'd prefer to follow it rather than the Porsche.

So, any criticism aimed at Tony for his out lap, applied equally to Garth Waldens lap too. And we all know Garth is a seasoned campaigner and drives superbly.

Wyatts move on Tony was a little over done, he gave a little too much room, but what the hell was Fiore thinking..... Out lap, red flag, practice 1, gent drivers, rookies, Bathurst, 12 hours...

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by ff s conscience

In car with Vicious Rumour...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhk...e_gdata_player

has there been any vision or statements released from the other 2 pilots/teams involved?

[Reload]

Fiore hasn't had a hell of a lot of practice at overtaking over the last few years.

[alfacors]

Originally Posted by ff s conscience

Wyatts move on Tony was a little over done, he gave a little too much room, but what the hell was Fiore thinking..... Out lap, red flag, practice 1, gent drivers, rookies, Bathurst, 12 hours...

Maybe Wyatt gave a little more room because Tony was a rookie on his out lap? Either way, I don't think Tony could be held at fault at all, nor Wyatt..... it's just a massive shame that neither car made the race in the end.

[ff s conscience]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

has there been any vision or statements released from the other 2 pilots/teams involved?

Nothing released.

I've put wyatts and Fiores footage on my facebook, but I don't friend people I don't know, generally, so you may not be able to see it.

Wyatt was very apologetic, unnecessarily so, but equally gutted for himself of course. He too was innocent.

On his footage, he doesn't appear to make much of a mirror check, unlike Tony who does at least 3 mirror checks, but of course, the Wyatt car has a rear facing tv camera on the dash, and you really don't need to move your head around to know what's behind you.

Fiore and his crew think they are not at fault, and blame Wyatt in the majority, while admitting maybe Fiore could have been more patient, but that's as far as it went.

Fiore had several inches of clear track to his left, then the wide white line, then another 1.5m of bitumen before the wall..... he could have given ~2m more room to Wyatt, but he misjudged his own speed and that of Wyatt, and then appeared to actually begin going back to collect the race line approaching McPhillamy, when he wasn't past Wyatt yet.

stewards deemed it a "racing incident", so no more need be done.

Other than stew.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Reload

Fiore hasn't had a hell of a lot of practice at overtaking over the last few years.

Hahaha

[jd yort]

We were standing at Murrays Corner on one of the sessions of which I can't recall. They would all come barrelling past up to 3 wide and within a lap the red flag. Restart would happen and exactly the same thing occurred. You had every single car on maybe 15% of the track at the start of each session.

Why the crew chiefs would just release their cars slowly onto the track I do not understand.

[rich07]

Race highlights from this year are on Speedweek on SBS tomorrow from 2pm. It'll be somewhere between 2 and 4 so if a bunch of flat brims going sideways comes on at 2, don't stress, it be on after them

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by FAS33

Jamie Whincup is the best V8 driver of all time, we can ALL agree with that.

glad the V8's are back, waaaaaaaaay better than the B12 that's for sure.

No comment, its makes people cry. However was defiantly a great race,
Nearly 80,000 people and the whole race live on TV for the next 6 years

[FAS33]

Originally Posted by peckstar

No comment, its makes people cry. However was defiantly a great race,
Nearly 80,000 people and the whole race live on TV for the next 6 years

there was more people that attended today then the whole history of the B12 Hour race

it was awesome, McLaughlin made this race, and suckd in to Van Gis bergen, was laughing hard out when he tried to overtake someone and got spun himself. bring on tomorrow! Scotty to win it.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by FAS33

Jamie Whincup is the best V8 driver of all time, we can ALL agree with that.

glad the V8's are back, waaaaaaaaay better than the B12 that's for sure.

Trolls gonna troll

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by FAS33

there was more people that attended today then the whole history of the B12 Hour race

After only three years the B12hr is already well on it's way to becoming Australia's premier motorsport event.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by bluesport

After only three years the B12hr is already well on it's way to becoming Australia's premier motorsport event.

Ha ha, nice trolling. 12 hour is for amatuers

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Ha ha, nice trolling. 12 hour is for amatuers

There's no motorsport in Oz that can go anywhere near the 12hr........and that's after only three years.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by bluesport

There's no motorsport in Oz that can go anywhere near the 12hr........and that's after only three years.

for a start its been going 8 (and 4 with GT). So I, probably thinking the rest of your comment is ill informed also.

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by FAS33

there was more people that attended today then the whole history of the B12 Hour race

it was awesome, McLaughlin made this race, and suckd in to Van Gis bergen, was laughing hard out when he tried to overtake someone and got spun himself. bring on tomorrow! Scotty to win it.

That was quite funny, I liked that.
OK, I'll bite
Just goes to show that more bogan morons are prepared to watch a sprint race with all the same cars, that took till the last lap for something exciting to happen. I'm guessing you are a nascar fan as well.
Listen, young fella ......It actually takes someone with an attention span longer than a goldfish, to follow all the nuances of an endurance race. When you're old enough to tell the difference between real race cars, and appreciate how many great subplots, turns and twists this years Bathurst 12H had, you may be able to appreciate the event more. But until then, you are better off staying in your comfort zone, sitting in your fold-up chair, with your blue floppy hat on.
I'll go and have a cup of tea and a lie down now.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by porsche91722

That was quite funny, I liked that.
OK, I'll bight
Just goes to show that more bogan morons are prepared to watch a sprint race with all the same cars, that took till the last lap for something exciting to happen. I'm guessing you are a nascar fan as well.
Listen, young fella ......It actually takes someone with an attention span longer than a goldfish, to follow all the nuances of an endurance race. When you're old enough to tell the difference between real race cars, and appreciate how many great subplots, turns and twists this years Bathurst 12H had, you may be able to appreciate the event more. But until then, you are better off staying in your comfort zone, sitting in your fold-up chair, with your blue floppy hat on.
I'll go and have a cup of tea and a lie down now.

Ha ha, you forgot that it didnt take a safety car with ten minutes to go to make it interesting either.

[Driver TBA]

FFS, take it somewhere else! This tit for tat trolling crap going on in threads at the moment is getting tiring.

I want to click on the B12hr / Aus GT and V8SC threads and enjoy reading discussion relating to that. Not appendage measuring, mines better than yours stuff...

Time for the mods to get tough I think, it's ruining a once great forum.


Or maybe it's just me? A rare bred that can enjoy most if not all categories?