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Old 14 Sep 2019, 15:14 (Ref:3927925)   #31
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Parity never worked in any racing category, F1 is a prime example of that.
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 22:41 (Ref:3927990)   #32
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Parity never worked in any racing category, F1 is a prime example of that.
And then there is dodgy parity, which is a particularly bad form of parity, and something which is uniquely deployed by Supercars.

Quoting Scotty:
“I think with the adjustments on the Holden there’s a few more happy faces down the end there.
“They know what they’ve found, hence why it (the changes) never went to the commission.
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Old 15 Sep 2019, 02:58 (Ref:3928024)   #33
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Half a second covering the top 8 which includes all 6 Mustangs and the Ford fairies are crying parity and Roland's chequebook... Feck me
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Old 15 Sep 2019, 03:31 (Ref:3928027)   #34
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Half a second covering the top 8 which includes all 6 Mustangs and the Ford fairies are crying parity and Roland's chequebook... Feck me
How come T8 have taken a sudden leap in front of the other holden teams, must have been sandbagging all along!!!
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Old 15 Sep 2019, 04:18 (Ref:3928030)   #35
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Half a second covering the top 8 which includes all 6 Mustangs and the Ford fairies are crying parity and Roland's chequebook... Feck me
That's great Mixup, but there was also a only half a second covering the top 8 at the opening round in Adelaide, with Opels in positions 2, 4 and 6; and that was some 6 months ago.

If the whole thing is such a non-issue, and if your above nominated criteria is the be-all and end-all; then why would Supercars/Holden pursue at least 6 revisions against the Mustang over the course of the season?
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Old 15 Sep 2019, 07:50 (Ref:3928054)   #36
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Half a second covering the top 8 which includes all 6 Mustangs and the Ford fairies are crying parity and Roland's chequebook... Feck me
Hopefully Rogers 16 million dollar cheque clears before Bathurst..........

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Old 15 Sep 2019, 15:31 (Ref:3928125)   #37
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Karting is the epitome of parity racing and it is just as unsuccessful there as in car racing. What happens is the field initially closes up but the well founded teams start spending big money for very small incremental increases in performance just as F1 has done. The closer you get to the brick wall of rules the smaller the incremental increases become and the more money is spent for less results but that does not stop the money being spent. The less well off teams are then left floundering because they cannot match the spending. Every attempt at trying to create parity eventually fails because the intention never matches the facts.
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Old 15 Sep 2019, 22:49 (Ref:3928224)   #38
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Parity never worked in any racing category, F1 is a prime example of that.
F1 is not a parity series.
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Old 15 Sep 2019, 22:54 (Ref:3928225)   #39
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F1 is not a parity series.
Is Supercars a parity series? Seems to me like they can't make up their mind if they are or aren't.
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Yep, F1 is not a parity formula and nor is karting, also referenced here.
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Old 16 Sep 2019, 00:02 (Ref:3928232)   #41
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Is Supercars a parity series? Seems to me like they can't make up their mind if they are or aren't.
Yeah it is and we saw evidence of that in the lead up to this weekend's race meeting.

For sure, this year has meant that the tools used to assess parity have needed a fair bit of a shake up and the process to do that has been a bit elongated but it appears that they are getting closer to a point of having parity under better control.
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Old 16 Sep 2019, 02:03 (Ref:3928249)   #42
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For sure, this year has meant that the tools used to assess parity have needed a fair bit of a shake up and the process to do that has been a bit elongated but it appears that they are getting closer to a point of having parity under better control.
What on earth gives you this impression?

The whole thing has been farcical from go to whoa, including the last underhanded adjustment done through the back door.
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Yeah it is and we saw evidence of that in the lead up to this weekend's race meeting.

For sure, this year has meant that the tools used to assess parity have needed a fair bit of a shake up and the process to do that has been a bit elongated but it appears that they are getting closer to a point of having parity under better control.
But what kind of parity?

Technical parity, where all cars are supposedly built to the same rules? Or sporting parity, where all cars are supposedly able to get the same result?

Two very different concepts...
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The whole thing has been farcical from go to whoa, including the last underhanded adjustment done through the back door.
That is absolute bullshit, the procedure followed for this adjustment was the same as all of the others, the board delegated to a technical committee, and never approved any parity adjustments because it was not the designated procedure for such.
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What on earth gives you this impression?

The whole thing has been farcical from go to whoa, including the last underhanded adjustment done through the back door.
What gives me that impression? The tools now in use to assess each make and closeness in the performance of the cars on track as far as can be seen from only 1 race meeting since the change to the Holdens. No one make looking like it had an edge at Puke looks promising but we won't know 100% I guess until a few more tracks - as usual.
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That is absolute bullshit, the procedure followed for this adjustment was the same as all of the others, the board delegated to a technical committee, and never approved any parity adjustments because it was not the designated procedure for such.
Yep - The Commission delegate the authority to the full-time Supercars techo staff, who do the number crunching and analysis and make the call, which in this case was widely announced, nothing remotely "underhand" or "back door" about it.
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