Home Mobile Forum News Cookbook FaceBook Us T-Shirts etc.: Europe/Worldwide. eBay Motorsport Links Advertising Live Chat  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides  
Related Sites: Baltic Touring Car Championship Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > WTCC & European Touring Car Series


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Yesterday, 16:54 (Ref:3823787)   #91
redshoes
Veteran
 
redshoes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 7,430
redshoes should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridredshoes should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridredshoes should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by crmalcolm View Post
I understand the need to look for cost-saving measures at all times, in even the most affluent of teams. It just seems a bit unexpected to look for ways to change a title-winning package unless the financial situation forced them to find a cheaper option
That's assuming a) the stated reason is true, and b) they had a choice in the matter.

Wouldn't be the first time the PR machine has put out something that isn't entire the full story.
redshoes is online now  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 17:03 (Ref:3823792)   #92
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,313
S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!
I can see no other reason, maybe they did need to make a change though. But is there any benefit to hide behind the truth?
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old Yesterday, 17:33 (Ref:3823804)   #93
BobJones
Racer
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 342
BobJones should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianM View Post
or Sutton really is the best touring car driver out there by a margin.
He is.
BobJones is offline  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 17:34 (Ref:3823805)   #94
BobJones
Racer
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 342
BobJones should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by porsche962fan View Post
meanwhile we have complete surreal standings , except Neal and Turks the old guard is nowhere , Shedden left the series, Mat Jackson got the boot, Plato is essentially irrelevant, Collard and Jordan had poor season so far ...

Morgan 96
Cook 95
Ingram 85
Goff 83
Turkington 78
Neal 68
Proctor 62
Cammish 62
Sutton 55
Smiley 48


and Power Maxed are leading the team standings
This is exciting.

For too long the "old guard" has sapped attention away from the real quality. Long may the 'new' faces reign.
BobJones is offline  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 17:37 (Ref:3823806)   #95
BobJones
Racer
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 342
BobJones should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akrapovic View Post
GT racing as the Pro driver coaching the Am. A lot of drivers do that in Pro-Am GT class racing.
Plato isn't fit enough to do more than 30 laps...
BobJones is offline  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 17:48 (Ref:3823809)   #96
Akrapovic
Veteran
 
Akrapovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Scotland
Posts: 5,696
Akrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianM View Post
Why would someone put him in an FWD car? Would you expect Mercedes to put other F1 drivers in their car to show that they could win as well as Hamilton?
That's a completely reversed analogy? Mercedes aren't struggling like BMR are. It's more like Red Bull opting to put Alonso in the car because he's unhappy with McLaren. And that's a completely realistic scenario.

If Jason is such the catch everyone seems to make out he is, then why isn't he in another car? What's stopping any other team on the grid giving him a drive?

I just don't get what it is about Jason. We keep hearing it's everything but his fault. CoG, chassis, weight and now engine. We've run through everything in the vehicle at this point. Now it seems that retiring is an option before another car? If retiring is an option before attempting a drive at another team, then maybe it's time to start investigating issues beyond the car.
Akrapovic is online now  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 18:43 (Ref:3823812)   #97
RS67
Racer
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 139
RS67 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by S griffin View Post
I can see no other reason, maybe they did need to make a change though. But is there any benefit to hide behind the truth?
I daresay someone has asked them the question and they had to supply a diplomatic answer that wouldn't have made them look bad if they had told the truth.

Last edited by RS67; Yesterday at 19:12.
RS67 is online now  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 19:11 (Ref:3823817)   #98
peebee2
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 948
peebee2 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridpeebee2 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
What could they do when the previous supplier declined to work with them again? They were lucky anyone would, and probably had to pay up front.
peebee2 is offline  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 19:40 (Ref:3823824)   #99
AdrianM
Racer
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 270
AdrianM should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akrapovic View Post

If Jason is such the catch everyone seems to make out he is, then why isn't he in another car? What's stopping any other team on the grid giving him a drive?
Why would they? They've all got drivers already. Not saying he's a great catch and is worth breaking a contract with another driver for but, IMO, he's far from the spent force many reckon he is.
AdrianM is online now  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 19:55 (Ref:3823827)   #100
Akrapovic
Veteran
 
Akrapovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Scotland
Posts: 5,696
Akrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameAkrapovic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianM View Post
Why would they? They've all got drivers already. Not saying he's a great catch and is worth breaking a contract with another driver for but, IMO, he's far from the spent force many reckon he is.
Well, he's an ex-champion that people (apparently) still rate up with the likes of Nel (who can still challenge for titles) and such a media darling that they feel the need to give him a mention even when he's currently the least relevant driver on the grid. He's surely worth something to a number of the teams?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm asking the question - we've cycled through almost every bit of the car that could possibly be the issue and we're still sitting with Jason being bottom of the table with the excuse of "We just need to fix the indicator stalk now and he'll be fine". It's been suggested he would do better in a FWD car, and I'm sure some of the teams on the grid would love to put him in the car. So if that's the apparent fix, then why are we talking about retirement rather than a move to a platform that would suit him better?
Akrapovic is online now  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 20:13 (Ref:3823831)   #101
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,313
S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!S griffin has a real shot at the podium!
He looks more like a gentleman driver, no offence, but Neal is miles ahead of him. He’s not hot property anymore. I can see the retirement happening. Switching to FWD would make sod all difference IMHO
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old Yesterday, 21:28 (Ref:3823844)   #102
Alfisti
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 540
Alfisti should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Knockhill showed he can still do it: I was exasperated when his return this year at BMR was announced. There must be a reason he didn't roll up elsewhere... maybe his backers are now ex backers. Correct me if I'm wrong but I've not seen any Silverline or KX branding, just a Tesco Petrol logo on his shiny helmet: presumably that's not mega money?
Alfisti is offline  
Quote
Old Today, 07:13 (Ref:3823898)   #103
MrAero
Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 39
MrAero should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
He's taken a while but it seems Matt Simpson is finally seems to be getting to grips with staying out of trouble. After scoring a solitary point in his first season then 30 last year, he's already up to that this year after the rounds.
MrAero is online now  
Quote
Reply

Bookmarks




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FRC 2018 - IMSA Round 2: Sebring 12 hours joeb Predictions Competitions 14 19 Mar 2018 01:41
2018 Round 1: Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg, 9-11 March. bjohnsonsmith Indycar Series 47 13 Mar 2018 20:02
2018 Bet 'Em IndyContest - round 1 St Pete NaBUru38 Indycar Series 4 11 Mar 2018 19:21
2018 Daytona 24 - IMSA Round 1 joeb Predictions Competitions 17 25 Feb 2018 19:57
BTCC Predictions Competition Round 9: Thruxton 2 and Season Results! Hazard WTCC & European Touring Car Series 3 15 Oct 2007 19:12


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2018 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.