Lada WTCC - Page 11

Bramzel · 12 Sep 2008, 08:16 (Ref:2287833)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Since when have they been the laughingstock of the grid?

They aren't, they're actually doing very well for such a small outfit and their performance has resulted in Lada jumping in as a factory outfit. They're only laughingstock in the eyes of ignorant elitists who think racing isn't for inferior brands as Lada.

snowen250 · 12 Sep 2008, 13:01 (Ref:2288044)

Go Lada! Go Lada! Go Lada!
I love them, and they aren't the laughing stock, i would say that would be the Turkish BMW teams.................

Matt · 14 Sep 2008, 05:11 (Ref:2289437)

Edit: ENOUGH! Please return to topic.

Dead-Eye · 14 Sep 2008, 19:50 (Ref:2290213)

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Originally Posted by Valenok

I've heard, new factory Lada car will be based on Priora model. Little difference.

Isn't the difference between the Priora and the 110 mostly cosmetic?

helgi · 15 Sep 2008, 05:25 (Ref:2290552)

There're only some changes in exterior. New head lights.

stedevil · 15 Sep 2008, 08:46 (Ref:2290639)

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Originally Posted by helgi

There're only some changes in exterior. New head lights.

According to the pics posted previously in this thread I can see a LOT more difference between the current 110 and the priora than just headlights.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9684/2170as0.jpg

Yannis · 15 Sep 2008, 13:36 (Ref:2290894)

Of course there are more changes than just headlights. I want to see what engine will be used and I suppose that a Renault powered 2-litre edition will be unveiled soon...

Thoughts about 2009 season

Valenok · 15 Sep 2008, 13:48 (Ref:2290907)

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Originally Posted by Yannis

I suppose that a Renault powered 2-litre edition will be unveiled soon...

It means Renault factory program so it sounds incredible

**FIRE** · 15 Sep 2008, 16:29 (Ref:2291035)

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Originally Posted by Valenok

It means Renault factory program so it sounds incredible

Why Renault factory program? Both LADA and Chevrolet are using an old Opel engine. Does that mean it are Opel factory programs? Of course I don't know the contract between LADA and Renault, maybe Renault can vote against using their engines for racing.

I assume the Renault engine for the LADA is the same as the Dacia engine. Or not?

helgi · 15 Sep 2008, 18:51 (Ref:2291156)

I've talked about base car. I don't know what they're going to put into that body for REAL racing. In any case it won't be a touring car, but a proto. Look at its suspension. I've never saw anything like that 'McPherson' at the base car.
They can write all they want in their papers,but there're no suitable engines now. And what they are going to do in 2010 without turbo - nobody knows.

Yannis · 15 Sep 2008, 19:31 (Ref:2291177)

I just mean that when Lada 21106 was unveiled in 1996, AvtoVAZ was very close to GM (don't forget the mpi units for the Samara/110/Niva and the 16V head of the engines of the 110 series which was developed in cooperation with GM), so an opel engine for the 21106 was a logical solution. That never meant a GM factory racing program.

Now according to the WTCC rules, Lada needs a 2-litre version for the Priora. Maybe they could use again the C20XE or another GM engine if they agree with GM, but I think that it would be more logical to use a Renault engine since a part of Lada belongs to Renault.

Or they could use the VAZ 21203 engine I have shown before.

But if the car will be raced in 2009, from the beginning, I think that we should see the road version of this soon

Valenok · 16 Sep 2008, 06:38 (Ref:2291495)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Why Renault factory program? Both LADA and Chevrolet are using an old Opel engine. Does that mean it are Opel factory programs? Of course I don't know the contract between LADA and Renault, maybe Renault can vote against using their engines for racing.

I assume the Renault engine for the LADA is the same as the Dacia engine. Or not?

Opel has S2000 engine, so Lada can use it. But I haven't heard about Renault S2000 engine. If Renault give Lada such engine, they can develop it by themselves, without factory Renault help. If Renault has such good engine.

**Dani Filth** · 16 Sep 2008, 08:50 (Ref:2291579)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Why Renault factory program? Both LADA and Chevrolet are using an old Opel engine. Does that mean it are Opel factory programs? Of course I don't know the contract between LADA and Renault, maybe Renault can vote against using their engines for racing.

I assume the Renault engine for the LADA is the same as the Dacia engine. Or not?

Dacia doesn't have a 2.0 litre engine in production .. yet anyway
there was a Dacia S2000 rally prototype that was using the Clio Sport engine

Yannis · 18 Sep 2008, 20:32 (Ref:2293381)

I think the Clio Sport engine would be the perfect solution!

Yannis · 19 Sep 2008, 13:18 (Ref:2293734)

Two teams with Lada in 2009, the factory one and a second racing for the Independents' trophy.
Jaap van Lagen, Lada factory driver in 2009
The ties with Lada Sport already visible from the race at Imola

source: jaapvanlagen.nl

Valker · 19 Sep 2008, 13:29 (Ref:2293741)

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Originally Posted by Yannis

The ties with Lada Sport already visible from the race at Imola

Is his car in these colours:
http://blade.gallery.ru/watch?ph=PZ-QYPD&viewsize=big
http://blade.gallery.ru/watch?ph=PZ-QYPG&viewsize=big
http://blade.gallery.ru/watch?ph=PZ-QYPH&viewsize=big

Yannis · 19 Sep 2008, 13:43 (Ref:2293748)

These are photos from the motor show of Moscow about 2 weeks ago.
I suppose this will be the new look at Imola. There are bigger Lada Sport stickers, and Rosoboronexport stickers.
Rosoboronexport is a russian defense export state company and owns a part of AvtoVAZ.

Valker · 20 Sep 2008, 16:39 (Ref:2294247)

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Originally Posted by helgi

In any case it won't be a touring car, but a proto. Look at its suspension. I've never saw anything like that 'McPherson' at the base car.

Well... 320iS is quite different to real 320i but I wouldn't call it a proto. I really don't like the idea of homologation specials in production car based series like WTCC, but at least AvtoVAZ (or Super-Avto or who ever built the road going "GTi" Ladas) has made enough 21106s to homologate it into gr. N... So I think it's more production car than 320iS.

helgi · 21 Sep 2008, 06:06 (Ref:2294488)

And the fact that homologation was given in the 20 century doesn't matter?

Wrldtrng · 2 Dec 2017, 09:22 (Ref:3784705)

It's so sad

Matt K · 2 Dec 2017, 23:58 (Ref:3784819)

Oh no 😔

Tarzaan · 3 Dec 2017, 12:24 (Ref:3784890)

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Originally Posted by Wrldtrng

It's so sad

Are you sure it is a TC1 Granta not a Cup Granta?

Cinghio44 · 3 Dec 2017, 12:43 (Ref:3784891)

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Originally Posted by Tarzaan

Are you sure it is a TC1 Granta not a Cup Granta?

It's a Lada Priora used in the 2009 season

Wrldtrng · 3 Dec 2017, 14:11 (Ref:3784902)

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Originally Posted by Cinghio44

It's a Lada Priora used in the 2009 season

Correctly.

Two Lada Granta TC1 in the museums of Oreca and AvtoVAZ and one sold to a private team for restructuring for time-attack.

Cinghio44 · 3 Dec 2017, 15:54 (Ref:3784919)

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Originally Posted by Wrldtrng

Two Lada Granta TC1 in the museums of Oreca and AvtoVAZ

Don't they put any Priora in the museum? I mean that's a piece of history, first points in a Word Championship with Thompson

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