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Old 30 Apr 2018, 19:15 (Ref:3818468)   #1936
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Old 10 May 2018, 02:35 (Ref:3821180)   #1937
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Has anyone noticed that the Penske Acuras at certain angles look like the Jaguar Budlight XJR-14? They seem to have the same general proportions, color and cockpit.
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Old 11 May 2018, 17:52 (Ref:3821542)   #1938
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Big discussion about DPI vs LMP1 on the Marshall Pruett This Week in Sportscars podcast. Good stuff. They thankfully don't leave out GT discussion too.

https://racer.com/2018/05/10/the-wee...raham-goodwin/


The main point is that they are not just compatible anymore. This was not brought up, but I wonder how a DPI would do at a place like Spa with Michilen tires and no BOP. They could be up there with the Oreca R13 cars maybe? Perhaps the remaining LMP2 teams like JDC and Performance Tech should look at ways to go to ELMS and abandon IMSA for the rest of the year.
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Old 11 May 2018, 17:53 (Ref:3821544)   #1939
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If you take away BoP from DPi then costs will get out of hand very quickly. You have manufacturers involved in that.
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but I wonder how a DPI would do at a place like Spa with Michilen tires and no BOP. They could be up there with the Oreca R13 cars maybe?
Not even close. The engine may provide enough power but the car would be way too heavy and not have enough downforce.
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Not even close. The engine may provide enough power but the car would be way too heavy and not have enough downforce.
And to add to this, whilst I'm sure the Caddy engine and Acura engines would provide enough power, the Mazda would last a lap before the most spectacular explosion ever.
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Old 12 May 2018, 04:28 (Ref:3821603)   #1942
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Has anyone noticed that the Penske Acuras at certain angles look like the Jaguar Budlight XJR-14? They seem to have the same general proportions, color and cockpit.
I guess not! A lot of you kids probably did not get to see the XJR-14 debut live in 1992 at RA.

The 3/4 profile, the stance and the color of the Acura's remind me of the Jag. Of course, put them side by side and there will huge differences. It's just those momentary glimpses that bring back those memories.
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I guess not! A lot of you kids probably did not get to see the XJR-14 debut live in 1992 at RA.

The 3/4 profile, the stance and the color of the Acura's remind me of the Jag. Of course, put them side by side and there will huge differences. It's just those momentary glimpses that bring back those memories.
I just had to go look at some videos. I can see the resemblance, especially in the front fender shape.
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My problem is I’m familiar with the XJR-14, but not the Acuras on track.
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I know of something that even more closely resembles (the front end of) the Acura DPi:



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I guess not! A lot of you kids probably did not get to see the XJR-14 debut live in 1992 at RA.

The 3/4 profile, the stance and the color of the Acura's remind me of the Jag. Of course, put them side by side and there will huge differences. It's just those momentary glimpses that bring back those memories.
You say the Acura looks like the XJR-14, what about the identical Oreca 07?
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Old 14 May 2018, 23:34 (Ref:3822462)   #1947
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My problem is Iím familiar with the XJR-14, but not the Acuras on track.
I saw the XJR-14 up close and on track while my comments about the Acuras were inspired by the video-replay of Mid-Ohio. There's something in the ratio of design and balance that triggers a memory.

I know this is comparing a seed to a tree. I've seen that original XJR-14 later metamorphize into 4 or 5 successful cars. In its later years, it really did not look or sound like it did in its youth but it was almost always successful.

We'll see with the Acuras but fun having them trigger these old memories.

Here's one of my favorite videos of the XJR-14 in a historic race at Monza. The instruments and video are much more modern but the left hand shift and the power and vibration of the flat-plane Cosworth are evident. Watch when the car gains speed and see the vibration in the video. The modern cars are so smooth.

It seemed getting the right gear selection on the left was a key. I remember seeing Davy Jones come flying down from T12 to T1 on his first flying lap and missing gears. He later figured it out. I think this is a reason we saw the introduction of the paddle shift.

I was next to the car as they worked on it and then started it up. Honestly, it sounded like a bunch of nuts and bolts had been thrown into a metal can and shaken. When I first heard it idling, I thought it was going to fall apart.

But, when at speed, oh what an incredible sound.

I'm sure the Acuras have a much more modern and smooth sound than that scream of the XJR-14. It's just that the Acuras are invoking those memories bodes well for the series, IMO.

Here's a YouTube I've watched many times. Interesting seeing that Momo steering wheel. I asked Moretti about the origins of the Momo name? He replied that it was a combination of the first two letters of his name, "Mo" and the first two letters of his favorite track Monza, "Mo" = MoMo.

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Here's one of my favorite videos of the XJR-14 in a historic race at Monza. The instruments and video are much more modern but the left hand shift and the power and vibration of the flat-plane Cosworth are evident. Watch when the car gains speed and see the vibration in the video. The modern cars are so smooth.

It seemed getting the right gear selection on the left was a key. I remember seeing Davy Jones come flying down from T12 to T1 on his first flying lap and missing gears. He later figured it out. I think this is a reason we saw the introduction of the paddle shift.

I was next to the car as they worked on it and then started it up. Honestly, it sounded like a bunch of nuts and bolts had been thrown into a metal can and shaken. When I first heard it idling, I thought it was going to fall apart.

But, when at speed, oh what an incredible sound.


Here's a YouTube I've watched many times. Interesting seeing that Momo steering wheel. I asked Moretti about the origins of the Momo name? He replied that it was a combination of the first two letters of his name, "Mo" and the first two letters of his favorite track Monza, "Mo" = MoMo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rl8NQhtvk8
Thanks for posting that video. It is a throwback seeing the steering wheel with no buttons, screens, paddles, knobs or anything on them.
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