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Old 13 Jan 2016, 20:00 (Ref:3604492)   #26
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Hmm.... not sure I see the point.

Since its limited to GPRM-running gear, chassis availability will be rather low and that's assuming that all cars built to the rules will find their way into this series. They even admit as much when they say that they only expect around 12 cars.

Will they run on their own or will they have to share the grid with other series? IIRC conventional wisdom has it that you need around an 18 car field to get anywhere near covering your track rental fees in most club racing series, else your competitors need to pay more for their tracktime than they would in comparable series.

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Hence, why I asked if there was any chance of running a class for either, or both, cars To the S2000 and NGTC engined S2000 cars.

As far as I am aware, there is no where to run these cars at the moment and there are quite a few about.
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Old 13 Jan 2016, 22:07 (Ref:3604538)   #27
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Hence, why I asked if there was any chance of running a class for either, or both, cars To the S2000 and NGTC engined S2000 cars.

As far as I am aware, there is no where to run these cars at the moment and there are quite a few about.
I think that'd be a good idea, maybe even a class for the BTC-T spec cars as well, always seems to be a few Toledos, Integras and Civics on RaceCarsDirect (other online motorsport classified sites are available) when I'm looking at ways to waste my money.

That would boost the grid, produce some decent, close racing and it'd be nice to see some old machinery back out on track...now I wonder what ever happened to the 406 Coupes? Lovely looking things.
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Old 13 Jan 2016, 23:24 (Ref:3604559)   #28
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Surprised a series like this didn't already exist. Here in Oz we have a 2nd tier development series for V8 Supercars that's a good place for old cars and young talent to demonstrate their skills.
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Old 14 Jan 2016, 12:14 (Ref:3604701)   #29
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Hence, why I asked if there was any chance of running a class for either, or both, cars To the S2000 and NGTC engined S2000 cars.

As far as I am aware, there is no where to run these cars at the moment and there are quite a few about.
They can be run in a number of club level series - pretty much any 'modified saloons' championship will take them.

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I think that'd be a good idea, maybe even a class for the BTC-T spec cars as well, always seems to be a few Toledos, Integras and Civics on RaceCarsDirect (other online motorsport classified sites are available) when I'm looking at ways to waste my money.

That would boost the grid, produce some decent, close racing and it'd be nice to see some old machinery back out on track...now I wonder what ever happened to the 406 Coupes? Lovely looking things.
John George ran a 406 coupe for a while (Britcar?) How many cars were there? Can't have been many but it'd be interesting to find out where they went.

If you keep adding old rule sets to the B-tec series you effectively end up with a slightly newer version of the Historic Super Touring championship.....
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Old 14 Jan 2016, 12:36 (Ref:3604704)   #30
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There were 4 406 chassis built. There are a few BTC-T threads in the chassis history forum.
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Old 14 Jan 2016, 16:57 (Ref:3604776)   #31
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To be honest I cant see it being a good idea for the series to go to Anglesey or Pembrey in its first year- good circuits though they are- because it is a long way for teams and drivers to travel and could well result in lower entries.
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Old 14 Jan 2016, 18:29 (Ref:3604802)   #32
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To be honest I cant see it being a good idea for the series to go to Anglesey or Pembrey in its first year- good circuits though they are- because it is a long way for teams and drivers to travel and could well result in lower entries.
Circuits easily accessible from motorways and dual carriageways? Riiiiiiiight.
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Old 14 Jan 2016, 23:08 (Ref:3604885)   #33
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To be honest I cant see it being a good idea for the series to go to Anglesey or Pembrey in its first year- good circuits though they are- because it is a long way for teams and drivers to travel and could well result in lower entries.
From the Midlands (which I'm assuming the bulk of teams are going to be based) there isn't a huge difference in travelling times to the Pembrey/Anglesey and Croft.

Also, the Pembrey meeting will be alongside the Truck racing championship, which would ensure a reasonable crowd, which is no bad thing either.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 17:54 (Ref:3605128)   #34
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Old 16 Jan 2016, 14:17 (Ref:3605352)   #37
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Surprised that that article suggests the Insignia's are still complete race cars - I was under the understanding that they had been stripped to build up the additional CC's over the past few years.
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Old 16 Jan 2016, 19:04 (Ref:3605414)   #38
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Great to see bmr making such a comitment
With 6 cars but still think those cc would be good fighting at the front cars with rml bits fitted in the btcc
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Old 16 Jan 2016, 22:09 (Ref:3605450)   #39
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Surprised that that article suggests the Insignia's are still complete race cars - I was under the understanding that they had been stripped to build up the additional CC's over the past few years.
The subframes will have been taken off the Insignias to build up the CCs but the base shell will still be complete. 'Just' a question of fitting new subframes and bunging an engine in.
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Old 18 Jan 2016, 09:57 (Ref:3605860)   #40
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Weren't the Civic Tourers built from the hatches, with new panels welded on?
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Old 18 Jan 2016, 13:45 (Ref:3605930)   #41
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Weren't the Civic Tourers built from the hatches, with new panels welded on?
They were new shells using the running gear from the 2012/2013 civics
Got that from another website
Going by that theres 3 hatch shells/complete and 2 tourers shells/conplete at dynamics
Not sure if they used bits off them to build the civic tyoe r ?
If it was then surely eurotech would have upgraded there old civic hatch instead of buying 3 new cars
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Well team BKR will run these cars as a deal with BMR has been done.
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just looked up BKR and they not even done a full season with a clio and zero touring car experience. but they will run 6 ngtc cars?! six cars! sounds like wishful thinking.
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just looked up BKR and they not even done a full season with a clio and zero touring car experience. but they will run 6 ngtc cars?! six cars! sounds like wishful thinking.
Team BKR used to be known as Bubble & Kick Racing, they've been around for a good number of years. They've got a reason amount of experience at club level. OK so it's still 6 cars but running in BTEC will be nothing like running in BTCC, so far less of a stretch than you think.
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Team BKR used to be known as Bubble & Kick Racing, they've been around for a good number of years. They've got a reason amount of experience at club level. OK so it's still 6 cars but running in BTEC will be nothing like running in BTCC, so far less of a stretch than you think.
seriously?? running six touring cars is a really massive stretch! thats six btcc cars that all have to be prepared properly and run at each race meeting which has two races on race day. thats 12 full race preps each race day and thats a huge amount of work for a minor league club level team.
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Team BKR used to be known as Bubble & Kick Racing, they've been around for a good number of years. They've got a reason amount of experience at club level. OK so it's still 6 cars but running in BTEC will be nothing like running in BTCC, so far less of a stretch than you think.
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seriously?? running six touring cars is a really massive stretch! thats six btcc cars that all have to be prepared properly and run at each race meeting which has two races on race day. thats 12 full race preps each race day and thats a huge amount of work for a minor league club level team.
I'm with redshoes on this one - running cars in the BTEC series won't be anywhere near as hard as running them in the BTCC - there simply won't be the 'every tenth counts' pressure (and presumably less panel bashing). Don't forget that at club level there are people that run ex-btcc cars themselves from the boot of an estate car - so running 6 cars shouldn't be too much of a stretch for a half competent team. Between races some (you'd hope all!) of the cars will surely only need fueling, tyre pressures checking and a general nut and bolt checkover.
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I'm with redshoes on this one - running cars in the BTEC series won't be anywhere near as hard as running them in the BTCC - there simply won't be the 'every tenth counts' pressure (and presumably less panel bashing). Don't forget that at club level there are people that run ex-btcc cars themselves from the boot of an estate car - so running 6 cars shouldn't be too much of a stretch for a half competent team. Between races some (you'd hope all!) of the cars will surely only need fueling, tyre pressures checking and a general nut and bolt checkover.
i forgot its only a club level series so drivers wont care so much how their car is prepped or competitive it is
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