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25 Nov 2003, 16:46 (Ref:794194)
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Its either Klien or Bell for Jag?
According to Gazzetta dello Sport, today is the day of reckoning for Jaguar, who will test both Bell and Klien, and shortly announce who will be Webber's partner for 04. An American in F1 would be fantastic! Forza Bell!
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25 Nov 2003, 17:15 (Ref:794235)
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What happened to Wurz? I thought he was tied to the Klien deal.
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25 Nov 2003, 17:25 (Ref:794251)
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Jaguar have said that these drivers should not be considered the short list and it is still early in their driver evaluation. Wurz is still the best bet in my book.
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A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
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25 Nov 2003, 17:57 (Ref:794289)
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Link please enemy? Thanks
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"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda
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25 Nov 2003, 20:04 (Ref:794392)
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Autosport! You have to be signed in to view it, so I won't post the link as I know some people won't be registered. Although it doesn't cost anything.
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A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
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25 Nov 2003, 20:25 (Ref:794401)
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 Some views from Bell and Klien too. Last edited by Adam43; 25 Nov 2003 at 20:25. |
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25 Nov 2003, 20:27 (Ref:794403)
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I think one will be tester not GP driver
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25 Nov 2003, 20:42 (Ref:794409)
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Red Bull are apparently adamant that it has to be a race seat for Klien, and have walked away from deals before if they don't meet their exact criteria.
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25 Nov 2003, 20:47 (Ref:794412)
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Ok, thanks guys..
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25 Nov 2003, 21:17 (Ref:794423)
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Boy, if people thought Andretti set us back 10 years....
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25 Nov 2003, 21:51 (Ref:794444)
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Allthough being on a light fuelload and new tyres, Klien did very well in posting a time of only 1/10th slower than Webber.
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25 Nov 2003, 21:57 (Ref:794455)
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I think Klien will be testdriver, thay can't afford to sign a driver with no experience with Webber already 90% certain to go to Williams next year.
since it seems that the Wurz is out the door(sponsorship problems(HSBC-Superfund)) the race seat will probably go to Marc Gene(although I don't know what sponsors he has) or Jos Verstappen. |
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25 Nov 2003, 22:11 (Ref:794466)
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Wurz won't be a problem if RedBull agrees. The Superfund-money won't be necessary than. I suspect Jaguar could be willing to take a gamble with Klien if RedBull wants it bad enough. And they might even hit the jackpot with Klien like Sauber did with Raikkonen.
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26 Nov 2003, 02:00 (Ref:794593)
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it's already decided though, right?
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26 Nov 2003, 02:05 (Ref:794596)
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Wouldn't Jos have the same conflict with HSBC with his backing from Trust?
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26 Nov 2003, 02:34 (Ref:794614)
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Nup.Ill stick with Wurz as favourite for the seat
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26 Nov 2003, 02:48 (Ref:794624)
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whys that JHanson, one is a bank the other makes digi cameras
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26 Nov 2003, 10:34 (Ref:794851)
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26 Nov 2003, 10:56 (Ref:794877)
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Superfun money might not be needed - but Wurz might be reluctant to sever his ties with that sponsor.
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26 Nov 2003, 11:05 (Ref:794884)
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26 Nov 2003, 11:11 (Ref:794891)
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Klien is undoubtedly a super talent. With Red Bull backing, I'm pretty sure he'll be on the F1 grid somewhere in 2004. But is he ready? No one thought Kimi was ready.
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26 Nov 2003, 11:49 (Ref:794937)
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Red Bull's driver support sometimes seems a bit disjointed - it's a shame they haven't taken the opportunity to give some of their US drivers a go in the carm especially as Ford's a US company.
Klien seems to be good, but I'm unconvinced that he's going to be a massive success. Sponsored drivers coming in from below F3000 are usually disasterous (Lauda being the only major exception). |
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26 Nov 2003, 11:53 (Ref:794942)
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Lauda did F2 which was the same
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26 Nov 2003, 11:59 (Ref:794948)
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Nice to see a pay-driver with some potential though. If he's quick and comes with cash it's a win-win!
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A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
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26 Nov 2003, 13:17 (Ref:795022)
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More to add to the 'disasters' who've gone to F1 from below F2/F3000.... um Hakkinen, Fisichella, Trulli, Brundle (was v good in debut year), Massa? think they've done alright haven't they?!
I'd like to see Bell get a drive, but not sure it will be next year. I think he may get a go at Minardi though. Don't know much about Klien, is he really a supertalent, cos he hasn't wiped the floor with everyone in F3, which is usually a good sign? True, though a pay driver with ability is rare indeed!! |
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