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Old 31 Jul 2017, 06:23 (Ref:3756251)   #1
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Ferrari in formula E?

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Ferrari President Sergio Marchionne has confirmed that Ferrari is looking at joining Porsche and Formula 1 rivals Mercedes in signing up to race in Formula E in the near future.
Speaking after watching the Formula 1 a team secure a 1-2 finish in the F1 Hungarian Grand Prix, Marchionne talked briefly of his interest in the championship saying, “In the wider sense of what we do with cars between Maserati, Alfa (Romeo) and Ferrari, we are looking at this with interest. Maybe with one of the others -- not Fiat -- but Alfa or Maserati.”
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Old 2 Aug 2017, 00:37 (Ref:3756814)   #2
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Ferrari President Sergio Marchionne has confirmed that Ferrari is looking at joining Porsche and Formula 1 rivals Mercedes in signing up to race in Formula E in the near future.
Speaking after watching the Formula 1 a team secure a 1-2 finish in the F1 Hungarian Grand Prix, Marchionne talked briefly of his interest in the championship saying, “In the wider sense of what we do with cars between Maserati, Alfa (Romeo) and Ferrari, we are looking at this with interest. Maybe with one of the others -- not Fiat -- but Alfa or Maserati.”
Since it was just announced that Maserati will be going all electric or hybrid I will put my money on them in FE and Alfa Romeo in F1.
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Old 5 Aug 2017, 02:10 (Ref:3757506)   #3
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I predict Maserati will head to Formula E by 2019, once their full electric range has been put into production. FIAT will purchase shares into Sauber to create Sauber-Alfa Romeo with Charles Leclerc alongside Marcus Ericsson, perhaps Giovinazzi instead should FIAT purchase Ericsson's shares in the team.
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Old 7 Aug 2017, 00:39 (Ref:3757891)   #4
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 01:14 (Ref:3758298)   #6
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New thought. FCA owns Magnetti Marelli, who have their own FE powertrain for customers, not that anyone bit.
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Old 10 Aug 2017, 16:30 (Ref:3758641)   #7
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Ferrari is already present in Formula E.

Mahindra runs with Magnetti Marelli electric engines, and they win races.

Magnetti Marelli belongs to FIAT-Chrysler Automotive FCA. It is a subsiduary.


https://www.motorsport.com/formula-e...hindra-689172/
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Ferrari is already present in Formula E.

Mahindra runs with Magnetti Marelli electric engines, and they win races.

Magnetti Marelli belongs to FIAT-Chrysler Automotive FCA. It is a subsiduary.


https://www.motorsport.com/formula-e...hindra-689172/
But it is not the Ferrari brand. There is a difference between a subsidiary supplier and a full blown entry.
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Old 12 Aug 2017, 23:23 (Ref:3759059)   #9
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New thought. FCA owns Magnetti Marelli, who have their own FE powertrain for customers, not that anyone bit.
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Ferrari is already present in Formula E.

Mahindra runs with Magnetti Marelli electric engines, and they win races.

Magnetti Marelli belongs to FIAT-Chrysler Automotive FCA. It is a subsiduary.


https://www.motorsport.com/formula-e...hindra-689172/
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I think people are confused. Ferrari have unequivocally said that electric cars are anathema to their vision. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Ferrari was separated from Fiat, and hence from FCA, in 2016. It is largely still owned by FCA shareholders, but that's different from being a part of FCA. Magneti Marelli is still part of FCA.

So all of the above is based on a faulty premise. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles may come into FE, probably through Maserati, but Ferrari will wait until hell freezes over first.
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I think people are confused. Ferrari have unequivocally said that electric cars are anathema to their vision. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Ferrari was separated from Fiat, and hence from FCA, in 2016. It is largely still owned by FCA shareholders, but that's different from being a part of FCA. Magneti Marelli is still part of FCA.

So all of the above is based on a faulty premise. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles may come into FE, probably through Maserati, but Ferrari will wait until hell freezes over first.
I think you are right that if FCA enters FE, the brand will most likely be Maserati. However, Ferrari's listing a couple of years' ago is no guarantee whatsoever that Ferrari will stay out. That crucially depends on how popular FE in particular, and electric cars in general, become in the future. A listed company is less insulated from "market opinions" than a brand managed within a corporate system.
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Why Maserati?! Not the correct brand.
Surely Fiat or Lancia or even Alfa would be the best one considering the reach of the series.
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Why Maserati?! Not the correct brand.
Surely Fiat or Lancia or even Alfa would be the best one considering the reach of the series.
As from 2019/2020 all new Maserati will be electric in some capacity, whereas Fiat have only the 500e which is barely marketed, Lancia is a dead brand selling only the Ypsillon (poorly), and Alfa Romeo have no electric cars planned in their new range of cars yet are moving to turbo-charged I4 and V6 hence my suggestion that they'll join F1 as a support team to Ferrari. Thus in terms of FCA brands, only Maserati would make sense in joining Formula E.

https://artofgears.com/2017/08/08/maserati-electric-hybrid-cars-2019/
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Ferrari electric supercar will be 'fastest on the market,' Marchionne says

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Is this approaching Ferrari to Formula E in the future? What do you think?
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But Formula E isn't symbolic for being fast...
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That ship sailed a long time ago. In fact the ship has already returned, delivering electric supercars that aren't Ferraris.
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I certainly agree with this statement that he made at the end:

Marchionne predicted that carmakers will have less than a decade to reinvent themselves to survive in the world of new technologies. Premium brands will manage to hold onto their cachet, while makers of run-of-the-mill people transporters will confront disruptors including Tesla or the Waymo robo-vehicle division of Google parent Alphabet.
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