2017 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 hour: Feb 3-5

[J Jay]

Another lap, another lapped car taking out a race leading car.

#60 punts the #37, which looks like it has serious transmission damage.

[TF110]

More questionable driving!

[airbusA346]

Suspension done on the Mclaren

[JHamilton]

Whew, there have been some cringy moments in this race.

[fieldodreams79]

There's been some boneheaded moves today. Just not smart racing from many guys that should know better.

[venturi]

Unusual from Richo, usually a clean driver, unlucky for the Quinns.

[airbusA346]

What is Quinn thinking!!

[kvenom]

Yes stop right in the middle of the track.

[J Jay]

I mean ... it's not 2014 Spa 24 bad (because that was nightmare-inducingly bad driving), but the driving standards in this race are in danger of becoming truly farcical.

[airbusA346]

He should have left it where he reversed it!

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by Lasse

Wy not use slow zones? Why are all series against that?

I think Australia is similar to the US in this way, and it's due to insurance. Nobody goes on a hot track ever and that's just the way it is. I don't see slow zones ever being an option here. Not sure about the Aussies.

[airbusA346]

Fluid pouring out of the #37.

[Starfish Primer]

Yellows bring more yellows... Maybe it is a good idea to make mandatory a 1sec difference between the cars in the restarts.

[Lasse]

I can totally understand that the point about safety vehicles and insurance to a certain point. But what about code 60 then?

It is so frustrating to see the race being reset this often.

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by airbusA346

What is Quinn thinking!!

Well it was going yellow anyway regardless of where he parked it. Can see why he'd want to try and get it back. Would have been driveable if he could have got it turned.

Regarding the rules here - if you're flatbedded back to the paddock is that automatically day over? Or can you continue?

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by Lasse

I can totally understand that the point about safety vehicles and insurance to a certain point. But what about code 60 then?

It is so frustrating to see the race being reset this often.

Code 60 is technically still a hot track. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't see it changing here.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

Code 60 is technically still a hot track. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't see it changing here.

Code 60 is safer than a safety car. Under safety car there are still drivers tanking around trying to catch the train. What the crews did here recovering the Ferrari was actually quite dangerous as it just needs one car trying to catch the train to have a problem.

Under a Code 60, there is no catching the train. Everyone is at 60, end of. No risk of someone coming into an area too fast.

[fieldodreams79]

The current rules are in place here. Local yellow until it's determined there's a danger and then full stoppage of Racing. Which I'm fine with.

[Ephaeton]

the SC procedure for Bathurst is not rage-inducing such as the IMSA ones, and I haven't seen ninja safety cars either, so I'm fine with that for this race as well. What I'm not fine with is the boneheaded moves that bring out these SCs this year.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Ephaeton

the SC procedure for Bathurst is not rage-inducing such as the IMSA ones

Only because there is no manufacturer interest in the lower classes lobbying against their class battles being broken up by the safety car splitting the class leaders from the rest of the field.

The Ams just role over and accept it - perhaps on the theory that things will even out eventually - try selling that concept to Doug Fehan or Chip Ganassi.

[JoeW04]

Think safety cars are inevitable at Bathurst unfortunately but I agree some of the moves that are bringing out these safety cars aren't to clever however it seems like they are doing there best to get back to green asap, unlike Daytona last weekend...don't get me started on that

[Akrapovic]

Yeah the IMSA procedure means class battles aren't ruined by the overall leader being between them when the caution is thrown. But then again, if they ran Code 60/FCY then it would solve it anyway.

[kvenom]

This is the best part of the race so far.

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Code 60 is safer than a safety car. Under safety car there are still drivers tanking around trying to catch the train. What the crews did here recovering the Ferrari was actually quite dangerous as it just needs one car trying to catch the train to have a problem.

Under a Code 60, there is no catching the train. Everyone is at 60, end of. No risk of someone coming into an area too fast.

I totally agree and can understand the frustration. Only speaking about American racing, it's just not going to happen IMO. You probably pay 4 times as much for road car insurance as I do and can have code 60. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[fieldodreams79]

Poor timing for a class run through coverage team! Bentley on the back of the Datsun!