BTCC Round Four, Oulton Park 11-12 Jun, Races 10,11&12 - Page 4

Robshillito1990 · 12 Jun 2022, 16:32 (Ref:4115184)

And the crap driving standards bite hard. Ridiculous.

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 16:33 (Ref:4115185)

No red flag?

Think Lloyd is already having problems with his back and and not much budget... wouldn't be surprised if he's out next round

Robshillito1990 · 12 Jun 2022, 16:34 (Ref:4115186)

??

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 16:35 (Ref:4115187)

Looks like it was of his own doing though.

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 16:36 (Ref:4115188)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Collard a dirty scummy driver like his dad

Why do you bother watching?

Ricky did nothing wrong from the replays we've seen.

Matt K · 12 Jun 2022, 16:38 (Ref:4115189)

What a carnage.... Cook just needs to drive safely and he's in front of Tingram and Ash again in terms of the standings.

Matt K · 12 Jun 2022, 16:39 (Ref:4115190)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Collard a dirty scummy driver like his dad

Ricky didn't seem to do anything wrong... It's so easy to bash everyone and everything for you...

tux · 12 Jun 2022, 16:49 (Ref:4115191)

What can you even say? Some of these incidents were easily avoided

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 16:53 (Ref:4115192)

How stupid was Parfitt... making a show for the crowd on the edge of a live racetrack??

porsche962fan · 12 Jun 2022, 16:59 (Ref:4115194)

the first race not scoring for Sutton since when ?

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 17:09 (Ref:4115197)

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Originally Posted by mattcanary

That looked appalling driving from Reece Sommefield. Notice he didn't get interviewed after the race. Ashton Miller was a very lucky boy there too

Disqualified

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Ginetta-GT4-Round-5-No-12-Reece-Somerfield.pdf

redshoes · 12 Jun 2022, 17:20 (Ref:4115200)

Lloyd being taken away for precautionary X-rays. Not surprising really, it was 3 big hits.

crmalcolm · 12 Jun 2022, 17:28 (Ref:4115201)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

the first race not scoring for Sutton since when ?

As mentioned earlier in the thread - 29 races ago...

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Going into this weekend, 4 drivers have picked up points in every round so far this season.

3 of those have point-scoring runs going back further. With Sutton on a 27-run streak.

Driver	Points streak
Ashley Sutton	27
Daniel Lloyd	18
Josh Cook	15
Colin Turkington	9
Rory Butcher	8
Adam Morgan	4
Daniel Rowbottom	3
Ash Hand	3
Tom Chilton	3
Michael Crees	3
Tom Ingram	2
George Gamble	1
Bobby Thompson	1
Árón Taylor-Smith	1
Sam Osborne	1

tux · 12 Jun 2022, 17:29 (Ref:4115204)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

How stupid was Parfitt... making a show for the crowd on the edge of a live racetrack??

Did it in qualifying too.

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 17:35 (Ref:4115205)

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Originally Posted by tux

Did it in qualifying too.

At least in qualifying it was kinda out the way down the escape route... but either way, putting himself and the marshals in danger, madness.

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 17:36 (Ref:4115206)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

Lloyd being taken away for precautionary X-rays. Not surprising really, it was 3 big hits.

Excerl8 don't have a spare chassis do they?

Craner Curves · 12 Jun 2022, 17:58 (Ref:4115214)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Excerl8 don't have a spare chassis do they?

Don't think so. Bit of a dumb move from Lloyd, especially with his limited budget and his home round up next.

thetool · 12 Jun 2022, 18:20 (Ref:4115218)

I think the lack of money will be the bigger obstacle than the time-frame. 10 days should be enough to get a new chassis preped.

Sodemo · 12 Jun 2022, 19:23 (Ref:4115231)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

In a technical bulletin.

OK, thanks. Where can you view these bulletins?

JDMROB · 12 Jun 2022, 19:33 (Ref:4115236)

That's one Dan Lloyd will be kicking himself for years for, thinking why oh why did I do that. Probably overtakes the one at Croft a few years back from pole in a Eurotech Honda.

I had nasty visions to Keith O'Dor & Frank Biela from 1995. Very lucky this was more of a frontal impact and not in the drivers door.

It was race 3 at Oulton last year that Ash last dropped points wasn't it? Bogey race.

Im still not convinced by this hybrid system. Is it really making any difference? I don't think it is. Much prefer it to the weight system though, the racing is a bit purer.

All in all a bit of an odd days racing. Chilton and Butel in the other Hyundais really are a let down. Plato puts himself in such silly positions and ends up getting swamped all the time. Its a shame but I do think its age related as much as he says it isn't. That M Sport engine does look down on power in the Honda, however.

Mike Harte · 12 Jun 2022, 19:37 (Ref:4115237)

If I recall correctly, driving standards were abysmal at last year's event at Oulton, too.It just seems to me that so many of today's drivers have a win at all costs mentality, or at least to improve their placing whether they are in the middle of the pack or at the back.

I wonder whether that is because, for the vast majority of them, they won't be the ones getting their hands dirty doing the repairs and possibly the costs of the repairs won't actually come out of their own pockets. If they had actually had to pay for the damage, they might well be more circumspect in the way that they drove.

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 19:46 (Ref:4115238)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

If I recall correctly, driving standards were abysmal at last year's event at Oulton, too.It just seems to me that so many of today's drivers have a win at all costs mentality, or at least to improve their placing whether they are in the middle of the pack or at the back.

I guess a narrow track with limited overtaking points leads to some desperate (stupid) moves.

crmalcolm · 12 Jun 2022, 19:51 (Ref:4115239)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

OK, thanks. Where can you view these bulletins?

They are published to those with access to TOCA technical services. The online versions require an account and are restricted from the general public.

(I trust you don't see this as an "inside knowledge - I know something you don't" type of situation. Just how TOCA do it.)

Sometimes the media will pick up on these and publish some details. Such as back in April when Autosport ran an article detailing the boost increase given to M-Sport engines.

redshoes · 12 Jun 2022, 20:03 (Ref:4115241)

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...7-Ash-Hand.pdf
Ash Hand on the naughty step, for going full chat into the scene of an accident.

Evantra · 12 Jun 2022, 20:16 (Ref:4115242)

Dan Lloyd update:

https://twitter.com/daniellloyd23/st...165656583?s=21

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