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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:39 (Ref:758356)   #76
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JustinDawkins should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Don't get me wrong there will no be a big advantage, as John A said, about .2s for every 10kgs, but it will level things out a bit, and most people seem to be for it.

KD is against it.

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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:44 (Ref:758360)   #77
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I'm just awkward - perhaps the heavies should go truck racing. LOL!!!
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:45 (Ref:758362)   #78
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I think it would just make it a more even formula, and it won't hurt.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 14:45 (Ref:758363)   #79
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I'm just awkward
No!?
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 15:12 (Ref:758390)   #80
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Don't want to pay for ANYTHING which decreases the performance of the car, and which also is yet another thing which puts lap records and such farther away from reach.

You might as well say as well as being heavy, i'm also old and those light young drivers have much better reactions than me and better eyesight, so they should have rubber steering columns and wear fuzzy glasses. Oh, and the light young drivers are generally skint, so as I'm a rich old person, have some of my money.

What I'm trying to say is where do you draw the line with natural abilities and attributes. If a driver wants to move into a different class he won't have the nanny welfare state that is the FF1600 to mollycoddle them.

Far better to enforce the rules you have without putting new ones in place. And let me tell you, once you start trying to factor in a drivers weight, there will be alls orts of problems, such as different scales, don't go for a wee before you race, don't sweat during a race and don't scare yourself too much either...

Just stop messing with the rules please.

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Old 21 Oct 2003, 15:17 (Ref:758398)   #81
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Don't want to pay for ANYTHING which decreases the performance of the car, and which also is yet another thing which puts lap records and such farther away from reach.
You agree weight makes a difference?
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 16:39 (Ref:758483)   #82
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Uneccesary weight does. Where do we stop?

There's always been heavier drivers, so why cjange it now?

I mean, poor old JR has just stated that his brain alone would make us 'well overweight'. So perhaps a lobotomy might help him....
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 16:47 (Ref:758493)   #83
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if your aim is to make it a LEVEL playing field, as you say then the only fair way is to take the weight of the heaviest driver and have everyone ballast UP to his weight....just another change for change sake it aint broke
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 08:01 (Ref:759120)   #84
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So overall, those with midget drivers want to keep their weight advantage unlike the main pro Formula Ford.

Hopefully common sense will prevail...
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 08:17 (Ref:759130)   #85
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Actually, it's those with drivers that train and keep their weight down to be as competitive as possible want to keep their advantage that they have worked for......
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 08:29 (Ref:759142)   #86
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Or those who work hard in the office all day to pay for their racing, and can berely fit the gym in?
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:10 (Ref:759193)   #87
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KD - that is a very small minded view....nature dictates people are all different shapes and sizes....lucky you that you were born smaller than average!!
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:14 (Ref:759199)   #88
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......or indeed both your sons are, or have the time to spend all day at the gym.
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:14 (Ref:759200)   #89
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JNWRF01 - never saw any RF01 FF1600s at Brands. What happened?
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:36 (Ref:759210)   #90
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Jr - so here's the story - spent 3 months waiting for conversion kit to turn up - give the car to JA to put together - get to the point of fitting the exhaust (the last part pretty much) they have sent a FF2000 not a FF1600 exhaust!!! So to the back of the queue again!!By the time I race it there will be a pre2002 class!!
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:38 (Ref:759213)   #91
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Both my drivers are 6'2" tall actually. They don't spend all day at the gym either.
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:39 (Ref:759215)   #92
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and how much do your sons weigh?
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 09:57 (Ref:759234)   #93
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Thats a bit personal isn't it?
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 10:00 (Ref:759235)   #94
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Not really, are they above or below 12.6?
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 10:53 (Ref:759273)   #95
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If you would like This weight allowance for the driver, please email Steve Burns @ BRSCC.
If you like you can just paste this to save time.

Dear Steve,

I would like to pledge my support to the proposed change of rules regarding weight in FF1600. I would like there to be an 80kg allowance for the driver, to give a more level playing field.

Kind Regards
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 10:54 (Ref:759274)   #96
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His email is steve@brscc.co.uk
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 10:58 (Ref:759283)   #97
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80kg! thought it was 75?
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 11:01 (Ref:759288)   #98
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One the petition it gave you the option of both, if you would prefer 75, change the email to 75, although I think 80 would be more realistic.
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 11:03 (Ref:759290)   #99
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ah right i see, was never ask to sign it so didnt know that.
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Old 22 Oct 2003, 11:05 (Ref:759297)   #100
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I think they had trouble geting round everyone, but if you email Steve Burns it will have the same effect.
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