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Old 23 Jan 2017, 18:31 (Ref:3704549)   #46
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But which Monday will it happen?


looks like it happened today but he has been offered an 'honorary president' type role.

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Old 23 Jan 2017, 18:52 (Ref:3704553)   #47
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Old 23 Jan 2017, 19:07 (Ref:3704554)   #48
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Old 23 Jan 2017, 19:17 (Ref:3704559)   #49
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The moment Mr Benson of the BBC wrote that article this morning - which was quite punchy towards BE - I thought Mr Ecclestone was 'out' - and now it's been confirmed! This time last year that would have ended up with a paddock pass not working come Melbourne

Not surprised he's gone - the running of the 'sport' at the moment is utterly illogical. Great job through the 80's and early 90's...since then, it's needed a change.

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Old 23 Jan 2017, 19:19 (Ref:3704560)   #50
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to his credit imo, BE has been instrumental in conforming F1 into a TV friendly event. yes he did it for money but the benefit of a TV friendly time format meant the sport became so much more accessible then it was in the past and has led to a much greater level of coverage which means i can watch more of it.
I am all for giving credit where it is due. I agree with your comment above. I will also say it was a 1990's solution for a 1990's problem (or pick whatever recently past decade this truly fits). Time has marched on. Time for new blood and new ideas. His doggedness was an asset and liability. It let him get things done and it also allowed him to dig his heels in and prevent (needed) change as well.

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Old 23 Jan 2017, 19:48 (Ref:3704569)   #51
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But, whatever criticism we level at the modern era, we all fret across the off-season and switch on to watch the first race.......
Not me, Chris: haven't watched it for many a year.

Indeed, the last time I actually watched an FI car in action was at Brands, in 1994; accidentally...

I had an appointment with my specialist Doc in West Kingsdowne and whilst waiting, his receptionist's daughter (who then worked for the circuit) called Mum to inform her Mansell had flown back from his IndyCar commitments to drive in Coulthard's place as a favour for his chum Frank Williams.

So after my appointment I toddled along to the circuit (It was open and free admission) to watch Nigel in action.

Rent-an-Oik were there in force; the nature of the nouveau spectator was typified by a fat bloke in jeans standing in front of me, with a Team Williams trophy hat worn backwards, copious builder's crack bulging over his jeans waistband and swigging from cans of Fosters.

His intellectual vacuum was demonstrated by his insistence upon screaming "Come on Nige!" whenever the Williams was transiting the top straight (Club Circuit). Rather pointless since (i) Mansell was the only car on the bloody course! and; (ii) With his ear pieces in and full helmet, then there was no chance of being heard, now was there?

Well, if this is the new sparkling FI, sorry guys, you can keep it.

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Old 23 Jan 2017, 19:51 (Ref:3704570)   #52
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Hill's accident: AAIB report:

I would suggest the financial pressure of trying to create his Shadows team created incredible time pressure upon Hill and various matters of administrative detail were passed over. He was never a careless man: daring, yes; but careless? No.

Probably Hill had to be back at base the next day: time pressures again.

Interestingly, neither the aircraft nor Hill's life were insured at the time of the accident. The Lloyds underwriters paid out though, as they can do on a matter of principle since intent had existed to renew.

How do I know this? Well, since my wife worked at the time for the underwriters concerned, perhaps?
GH flying himself and 5 of his team to their death when he tried to land at night in fog at an airfield with no approach radar - no, not careless at all.

Ah the insurance paid out - so that makes it all OK then? Possibly one of the most insensitive remarks I've ever read on ten-tenths.

Growing up in Heathrow's shadow, many of my friends worked in aviation including three in London ATC and two as pilots. The only good that came out of GH's crash was that it was quoted for many years as a classic example of why pilots must never allow get-home-itis to cloud their judgement.

As a child of the sixties GH was one of my heroes, waving the flag for Britain, larger than life, jolly good fellow, all that stuff. But once i learnt the truth about that night it all changed for me. I'll say no more.
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Old 23 Jan 2017, 19:58 (Ref:3704574)   #54
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It seems that Bernie will no longer at the center of F1 maybe not the periphery, he has even suggested that he might be able to afford to attend a GP. Does that mean he will no longer have one of his famous passes?
He might become Honorary President (any organizations that I have been involved with that used Honorary in the title meant it was unpaid) but Bernie did not seem too impressed.

So it looks like Bernie is leaving F1 and not in box which is a surprise but then he knows where all the skeletons are buried so I expect some to appear over the next year or so.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ec...-of-f1-868019/
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127858

Who would have said a year ago that Bernie and Ron Dennis would be out of F1 in a year yet both alive?
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Quite happy with Ross Brawn getting a spot on the sporting side of decision making. Curious what changes he'd try to push through, hopefully they're a bit more exciting than what we currently have.
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Pushing Bern to the side, if not out completely, as much as possible is a good start for the sport that has rapidly eroded over the past decade, imho.
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looks like it happened today but he has been offered an 'honorary president' type role.

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According to this Autosport article, Bernie will give up his role as chief executive of Formula 1 to Chase Carey with immediate effect. Carey refers to Bernie as chairman emeritus.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127859


Ross Brawn returns to F1 and is named managing director, motorsports by Liberty.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127860
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