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Old 31 Jan 2014, 10:38 (Ref:3362492)   #106
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With front radiators they may as well put the engine up there as well. Theyd probably look like the Panoz lmp1
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 12:14 (Ref:3362523)   #107
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The Panoz LMP1 was quick, particularly in the rain. Recalling the pole sitting flawless win at Nurburgring 2000.
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 12:58 (Ref:3362537)   #108
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The Panoz LMP1 was quick, particularly in the rain. Recalling the pole sitting flawless win at Nurburgring 2000.

True. Still remember Klaus Graf leading the race for a lap or two during the rain at the LM 24h in 2001!

Loved that car!
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 13:37 (Ref:3362545)   #109
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With front radiators they may as well put the engine up there as well. Theyd probably look like the Panoz lmp1
So the Toyota TS040 would have an engine in the front of the car...
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 13:43 (Ref:3362548)   #110
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Sorry? Not sure how you got that?

We've wandered a little off topic, I'm happy to move the general P1 styling/rules discussion to its own thread? Just shout...
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 13:46 (Ref:3362551)   #111
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Sorry? Not sure how you got that?

We've wandered a little off topic, I'm happy to move the general P1 styling/rules discussion to its own thread? Just shout...
Never mind.
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 19:21 (Ref:3362656)   #112
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Never mind.
Just a hypothetical "what if"... the radiators were in front of the cockpit...

News on Toyotas future, Akio Toyoda said no to wrc till at least the new regs in 2017. Perhaps their future in the wec is bright. He also said no to F1 as long as hes president He also talked about a restructuring in Toyotas motorsport activities. More streamlined management of domestic and foreign projects.
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How much power could we expect from the 2 hybrid systemīs???

400-500 bhp!!!!!?

If they manage to develop the same power from last year +- 530 bhp ( i donīt have sure of that number!!!) + 2 hybrid …letīs say 400 bhp we are talking in 930 bhp total power ..uaaauuu!!
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Just a hypothetical "what if"... the radiators were in front of the cockpit...

News on Toyotas future, Akio Toyoda said no to wrc till at least the new regs in 2017. Perhaps their future in the wec is bright. He also said no to F1 as long as hes president He also talked about a restructuring in Toyotas motorsport activities. More streamlined management of domestic and foreign projects.
Oh.
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 20:35 (Ref:3362684)   #115
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That'd be nuts coming off the corners.


Question: With the front and rear hybrid option can drivers or the team split varying amounts of power across the systems?
Say they go for 8MJ total hybrid power, can they split it by different amounts front rear per track or even change it on the fly depending on weather conditions etc?

Or is there something in the regs stopping this?
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 20:36 (Ref:3362685)   #116
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Curiously Sarrazin is still going start testing the WRC car.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112372
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Question: With the front and rear hybrid option can drivers or the team split varying amounts of power across the systems?
Say they go for 8MJ total hybrid power, can they split it by different amounts front rear per track or even change it on the fly depending on weather conditions etc?

Or is there something in the regs stopping this?
Nothing stopping it as far as I can tell, the only limitation is that the total ERS energy released per lap should not exceed 2, 4, 6 or 8 MJ, so I suspect the distribution between front and rear axles is free and adjustable.
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Old 31 Jan 2014, 22:29 (Ref:3362728)   #118
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Nothing stopping it as far as I can tell, the only limitation is that the total ERS energy released per lap should not exceed 2, 4, 6 or 8 MJ, so I suspect the distribution between front and rear axles is free and adjustable.
From the press release of Toyota Europe that I linked to, they claimed more than the 300hp from 2013. Last year the total for LeMans was 3.5MJ per lap. If theyre saying 'double' that (7mj) its either the 6 or 8MJ option. With the 6MJ option, thats 1.7x the current power, or ~515hp. The 8MJ option is 2.28x the current power, or ~685hp. Thats assuming they stay with the same amount of release time, I think its around 2.3 seconds. So they could do that in the whole lap something like 7 times in 2013 for full release. But theres no limit on where to release hybrid energy this year. So if there was around 16-17 seconds of boost in 2013 of 300hp, you can figure out how much time per lap they could use 6MJ; 27-28 seconds @300hp or 8MJ; 36-37 seconds @300hp!
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Old 1 Feb 2014, 19:11 (Ref:3362986)   #119
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well, if you calculate at least 550 bhp from the combustion engine (which is btw very pesimistic from what i have heared. All engine manufactures are very well pleased with the amount of the Power they can produce with the given fuel flows...) and 2x300 bhp while boosting, than you have a little bit over 1100 bhp while boosting

Michelin claimend that they will produce tires which have to carry on over 1100 hbp (over 4 wheels ) and these tremendous horsepowers suits very well to the times, Audi whrere doing in december with their new R18 So these new cars will be as fast as 2013, maybe a little bit faster
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I really hope so, but don't forget those extra horsies are only available a small part of the lap, while the aerodynamical disadvantages of the 2014-spec cars compared to the 2013 ones last the whole lap!
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