BATHURST 2020

Sandgroper · 2 Oct 2020, 13:52 (Ref:4008011)

Since this page is now dead I thought I may as well start the Bathurst thread.

2 weeks to go, lets hope for a rippa !!!!

E.B · 3 Oct 2020, 02:25 (Ref:4008155)

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Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Since this page is now dead I thought I may as well start the Bathurst thread.

2 weeks to go, lets hope for a rippa !!!!

Well, Ill be locked down at home watching it all day. All weekend actually. Looking forward to it. Now the championship is settled we can have a no holds barred race.

Kingair · 3 Oct 2020, 03:15 (Ref:4008163)

Bring it on.

Hopefully the have the deb-ris under control this year!

chavez · 3 Oct 2020, 04:22 (Ref:4008167)

And no change to the Safety Car rules to bring Supercars.

Drivers will still continue to drive flat out under Safety Car conditions at all times, unless in the queue.

275 GTB-4 · 3 Oct 2020, 08:47 (Ref:4008189)

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Originally Posted by chavez

And no change to the Safety Car rules to bring Supercars.

Drivers will still continue to drive flat out under Safety Car conditions at all times, unless in the queue.

To be FAIR...nothing wrong with catching up to the "train" so long as you slow and take care at sectors under local yellow...

E.B · 3 Oct 2020, 11:41 (Ref:4008220)

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Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

To be FAIR...nothing wrong with catching up to the "train" so long as you slow and take care at sectors under local yellow...

Im of the same opinion. Much prefer tht to the 'Coulthard scenario'.

Sandgroper · 3 Oct 2020, 14:17 (Ref:4008267)

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Originally Posted by E.B

Well, Ill be locked down at home watching it all day. All weekend actually. Looking forward to it. Now the championship is settled we can have a no holds barred race.

Ditto and wifey is going away all weekend.
CANT WAIT

Let the boy loose.......................At the track I mean

Tourer · 3 Oct 2020, 18:02 (Ref:4008305)

Hanging out for it (as usual). Not able to have a group here in "Stulag Luft Lockdown" but just might have my "bubble buddy" over - have got around to getting an HDTV so it should be even more better!

Have my tee shirt ready to throw on but fervently hope that it won't be needed this year or ever again.

I'll bet that the teams are looking forward to this Bathurst a little bit more than usual too - well the Victorian-based teams anyway, who have been away from their homes since early July - really good to see their efforts recognised on Andretti's indycars this weekend.

tux · 3 Oct 2020, 18:06 (Ref:4008307)

They got those soft tyres that let everyone win?

ford71 · 4 Oct 2020, 00:44 (Ref:4008393)

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Originally Posted by chavez

And no change to the Safety Car rules to bring Supercars.

Drivers will still continue to drive flat out under Safety Car conditions at all times, unless in the queue.

Actually there is a change.
And it will likely contribute to the problem you highlight

chavez · 4 Oct 2020, 05:47 (Ref:4008452)

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Originally Posted by ford71

Actually there is a change.
And it will likely contribute to the problem you highlight

What is the change?

Hopefully in line with F1 which requires drivers to maintain a minimum sector time upon the display of safety car boards.

ford71 · 4 Oct 2020, 09:49 (Ref:4008469)

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Originally Posted by chavez

What is the change?

Hopefully in line with F1 which requires drivers to maintain a minimum sector time upon the display of safety car boards.

Nothing positive like that.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/09/30...-for-bathurst/

...however on re-reading I can see at least the lapped cars will be sent once the SC is set to return to pitlane

Go Harder. · 6 Oct 2020, 11:15 (Ref:4008820)

So, unless I misunderstand something, the lapped cars won't get a full lap back, rather they will be 15-20 odd seconds ahead of the pack when it goes green??

Axeman444 · 6 Oct 2020, 21:14 (Ref:4008908)

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Originally Posted by Go Harder.

So, unless I misunderstand something, the lapped cars won't get a full lap back, rather they will be 15-20 odd seconds ahead of the pack when it goes green??

Yep, so they will be half the length of Conrod in front at the restart, but in a few laps, they might be in the way of the leaders... again...

blaarg · 6 Oct 2020, 23:17 (Ref:4008923)

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Originally Posted by Go Harder.

So, unless I misunderstand something, the lapped cars won't get a full lap back, rather they will be 15-20 odd seconds ahead of the pack when it goes green??

...and when do the unlapping cars get the green flag? Presumably at the start/finish line, but after the lead pack takes the green or before?

Go Harder. · 6 Oct 2020, 23:42 (Ref:4008924)

I assume the unlapping cars will be free to go full noise as they pass the safety car. But what's the point? Now we have a group of (probably) slower cars, and in a few laps the faster pack is gonna be backing up behind them.
Might be a long day for the SC driver...

ford71 · 7 Oct 2020, 00:26 (Ref:4008926)

Couple of driver opinions are up on speedcafe.

Point has been made about the "buffer" of lapped cars between say 1st and 2nd being removed after working ontrack to pass those cars and creating that buffer.

But yeah, I'm more thinking how quickly the fast guys at the front will catch the slower cars and have to get passed them again. Not really fixing anything, only delaying the mix up of fast and slower drivers.

V8 Fireworks · 7 Oct 2020, 02:25 (Ref:4008933)

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Originally Posted by tux

They got those soft tyres that let everyone win?

Not at Bathurst, because they would explode unfortunately! Hard tyres only for Bathurst due to the high loads.

E.B · 7 Oct 2020, 05:14 (Ref:4008940)

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Originally Posted by blaarg

...and when do the unlapping cars get the green flag? Presumably at the start/finish line, but after the lead pack takes the green or before?

I reckon they will be running hard from the moment they pass the SC to catch up as much as they can.
They are certainly not going to be continuing at SC speed, or even close to, once they are waved past.

crmalcolm · 7 Oct 2020, 07:30 (Ref:4008958)

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Originally Posted by ford71

But yeah, I'm more thinking how quickly the fast guys at the front will catch the slower cars and have to get passed them again. Not really fixing anything, only delaying the mix up of fast and slower drivers.

How quickly will that happen though? What is the difference in lap time between a front runner and back marker in the series?

Given the other options, would they have been preferable:
Don't release the lapped cars, and be criticised for having them mixed with the faster cars on the re-start?
Release the lapped cars, but keep the rest of the field behind the SC for longer and be criticised for holding up racing?

Sandgroper · 7 Oct 2020, 12:56 (Ref:4008992)

SO in other words, wait for crash and catch the laps up....hmmmmm not in the spirit for me

V8 Fireworks · 7 Oct 2020, 21:36 (Ref:4009068)

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Originally Posted by Sandgroper

SO in other words, wait for crash and catch the laps up....hmmmmm not in the spirit for me

Unfortunately with the counter-productive co-driver rules, all but the top teams with expensive co-drivers continually fall behind during green flag running...

That rule has been a huge flop IMO.

blaarg · 7 Oct 2020, 22:01 (Ref:4009074)

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Originally Posted by E.B

I reckon they will be running hard from the moment they pass the SC to catch up as much as they can.
They are certainly not going to be continuing at SC speed, or even close to, once they are waved past.

...also, I wonder at what stage the unlapping cars are permitted to race 'each other', assuming there is more than 1 car unlapping itself?

chavez · 8 Oct 2020, 01:59 (Ref:4009089)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Unfortunately with the counter-productive co-driver rules, all but the top teams with expensive co-drivers continually fall behind during green flag running...

That rule has been a huge flop IMO.

The rule stopped the teams running a second car with little or no chance of success.

The better co-drivers will always be spanned up by the better teams.

V8 Fireworks · 8 Oct 2020, 22:20 (Ref:4009225)

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Originally Posted by chavez

The rule stopped the teams running a second car with little or no chance of success.

I liked the A-team combinations myself!

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