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Old 7 Aug 2010, 17:57 (Ref:2741000)   #1
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2011 British F3 off Season/Silly season news etc (merge)

F3 Euroseries teams MŁcke, ART and Prema accepted the invitiation to the 2010 British F3 rounds at Silverstone and Spa (which were supporting the FIA GT1). If the F3 Euroseries disappears, I wonder whether those teams (and Signature and Motopark) will switch to British F3, or instead strenghten their entries in other formula series. Also, do you believe that the British F3 will add more FIA GT1 supporting races? Media coverage is much bigger there than in ADAC or Superleague weekends.
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Old 8 Aug 2010, 12:49 (Ref:2741329)   #2
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Am I a telepath or what? Check these two Motors TV news:

"Brands Hatch, Oulton Park and Snetterton are all set to be snubbed for next year’s British F3 International Series.

A provisional list of races has been put forward to Stephane Ratel and includes five overseas races and another five in the UK. However none of the UK rounds are set to be at MotorSport Vision tracks.

The five races set to be held outside of Britain could include the Nurburgring in Germany, Monza in Italy, Paul Ricard in France, Portimao in Portugal and Spa-Francorchamps in Belgium." (All these races are part of the FIA GT1!)

"A number of the leading Formula 3 Euro Series teams are set to join the British Series for next season."
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Old 8 Aug 2010, 13:27 (Ref:2741338)   #3
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Oops, Monza doesn't. Perhaps it will in 2011.

Another quote from here: "Team bosses are believed to have requested the move away from MSV circuits in favour of overseas tracks that regularly feature rounds of major championships such as Formula One, GP2, GP3, GT1 and World Touring Car." Of course, drivers who want to climb higher prefer to race where the higher rank do.
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Am I a telepath or what? Check these two Motors TV news:

"Brands Hatch, Oulton Park and Snetterton are all set to be snubbed for next yearís British F3 International Series.
I really don't get this at all. I understand the desire to maximise the discomfort of the failing Euroseries from a business point of view but I can't understand why removing three classic British circuits from the calendar is considered a good idea?

British F3 should be just that in my opinion. I can't see any problems with facilities for a F3 team. As for safety considerations top speeds through the trap aren't that much higher than FF Duratec.

All it will do is make bloated budgets even higher. A complete nonsence.
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Old 11 Aug 2010, 12:45 (Ref:2743003)   #5
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So British F3 could almost become the new F3 Euro Series - and we just about lose our top national series. It sounds like what happened in France and Germany all over again. If the F3ES teams found their series too expensive to maintain a presence when GP3 came along, then surely British F3 expanding into Europe will face similar problems?

It's sad that with GP3's British visit being inaccessible for fans, potentially no more F3ES at Brands and F2 being a complete irrelevance, the choice of sub GP2/WSbR single seater meetings to visit (and have paddock access) will drop dramatically.

I usually make it to Oulton (and the much closer Thruxton this year). At least Thruxton could stay which like Oulton is always worth visiting from a photography/paddock access/good racing standpoint. Silverstone, Donington and Rockingham don't offer a good spectator experience as far as I'm concerned, so I never attend those rounds.
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I get the feeling this is more anti-MSV than pro-Euro.
don't know the real reasons (other than money/power) but the british racing big wigs fall out like this every few years.
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Old 11 Aug 2010, 18:49 (Ref:2743134)   #7
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RIP "British f3" ?
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I get the feeling this is more anti-MSV than pro-Euro.
don't know the real reasons (other than money/power) but the british racing big wigs fall out like this every few years.
I wonder if Palmer/MSV plan on scaling F2 back to a national "Super FPA" in the future, if rumours of FIA withdrawing support after 2011 are true? Total speculation on my part, but maybe that could have something to do with it? There's obviously something more going on as you say.
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We've had all this 'goodbye British F3' stuff before, when the British F3 Championship became the British F3 International Series.

Despite the stories of doom and gloom, however, the fact is that the Series is currently the strongest out there and the reason is that SRO has listened to the teams and the teams have respected the wishes of the people who pay their budgets, the drivers.

So far as the MSV circuits are concerned, BF3 has managed without them before and will do so again if that's what it comes to. A couple of facts: as you would expect of a shrewd businessman, Mr Palmer charges more for BF3 to race on his circuits than any other circuit owner and you can't cherry pick. You have to take all three - Oulton Park, Snetterton and Brands Hatch GP.

As drivers' circuits, Oulton and Brands are great, but that's where it stops. There's hardly any overtaking and there's no such thing as a cheap accident there. These things count. It's also a fact that having the Easter Monday slot at Oulton is not great. A couple of years ago it was the coldest meeting I can remember.
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If they want to avoid MSV tracks, surely they could go to places like Mondello Park (when was the last time they had a big car meeting there?), Anglesey, another round at Silverstone, Knockhill etc ...
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british f3 at mondello was ridiculous. the track was too small and they barely had to change gear. i suspect that also applies for any of the more club and bike orientated circuits. nice thought, ain't gonna happen.
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Silverstone, Donington, Thruxton, Rockingham, Croft, Knockhill. That's six. Visiting two of them twice and visiting two foreign circuits gives ten as now.
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The New Hampshire race was moved to August 14, since the Nascar will race in mid July and late September. So where does Sears Point fit? Nobody would put that race one week after racing in the opposite corner of the country.
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Is it just me that likes the idea of more races abroad?
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Silverstone, Donington, Thruxton, Rockingham, Croft, Knockhill. That's six. Visiting two of them twice and visiting two foreign circuits gives ten as now.
There will probably be two races at Silverstone, as there have been this year. Forget Knockhill and, sadly, Croft, so that leaves five races abroad, which is what I am expecting to see.
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Is it just me that likes the idea of more races abroad?
No, I think the races abroad add a lot to the Series, especially when they're at decent circuits, so bring back Monza and Portimao!
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