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Old 21 Oct 2003, 00:24 (Ref:757641)   #61
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Hi.

I hope what I am just about to write here will help solve some people's questions about chassis number 03 of Lola T280.

It was delivered to Noritake Takahara in Japan on 30th of March 1972 to be raced in the Grand Champion series at Fuji Speedway. He then took the championship and went to Kojima Engineering.

It still remains in Japan (not at Kojima Engineering) in its original state.
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 08:49 (Ref:757976)   #62
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Nice to have some concrete information, Thanks!
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 09:59 (Ref:758054)   #63
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Hi.

I hope what I am just about to write here will help solve some people's questions about chassis number 03 of Lola T280.

It was delivered to Noritake Takahara in Japan on 30th of March 1972 to be raced in the Grand Champion series at Fuji Speedway. He then took the championship and went to Kojima Engineering.

It still remains in Japan (not at Kojima Engineering) in its original state.
That's very interesting. Can I be cheeky and ask you what your source is for this information? Also you mention that this will help solve some questions about chassis number 3. Are you sure that it was chassis 3 that was delivered to Takahara and not 4? This would make sense as, if it was delivered in March 72 then it would certainly have been the third one built...

What I don't understand is why Takahara didn't use the car from the first round onwards! Was there some problem with it?

It would be really nice to make contact with the current owners and share the information/pictures we have uncovered in the past few months - do you have this info. Perhaps you could send me a private message or email me on michael.oliver@oliverandcompany.co.uk if you didn't want to post this on the list.

Many thanks for the information - very interesting!

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Old 21 Oct 2003, 17:58 (Ref:758594)   #64
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Whats for a nice and important info . Thanks Kojima _ ke007

French magasine SPORT AUTO telled in April 1972 that a third car was build , but not for Bonnier team .Maybe this
car was destined to Von Wendt at first ?
For myself the chassis # 3 was C Gaspar car .....
KOJIMA _ KE 007 ,please do you know where exactly stay now the car ? Was the car entered in other races after season 1972 ?
best regards
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Old 21 Oct 2003, 18:43 (Ref:758618)   #65
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I am glad that the info I provided has helped. (^^)

The chassis number 03 is currently in our associates' garage in Japan. I do have acouple of photos but as I do not have the permission from the owner himself to publish them, I will not publish this time.

It did race in the Grand Champion series in 1972 from round 2 to 5 driven by Noritake Takahara but it did not race at all in 1973 (Japanese Auto Technic magazine).

As the Grand Champion race was only run at Fuji Speedway, the body was slightly modified to suit the very fast and flowing circuit configuration.

Since then, it has always remained in Japan.

Another interesting point is that, the bell housing of the T280 (chassis number 03) was used on Kojima KE007 and KE009 Formula One chassis.

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Old 22 Oct 2003, 12:15 (Ref:759404)   #66
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I am glad that the info I provided has helped. (^^)

The chassis number 03 is currently in our associates' garage in Japan. I do have acouple of photos but as I do not have the permission from the owner himself to publish them, I will not publish this time.

It did race in the Grand Champion series in 1972 from round 2 to 5 driven by Noritake Takahara but it did not race at all in 1973 (Japanese Auto Technic magazine).

As the Grand Champion race was only run at Fuji Speedway, the body was slightly modified to suit the very fast and flowing circuit configuration.

Since then, it has always remained in Japan.

Another interesting point is that, the bell housing of the T280 (chassis number 03) was used on Kojima KE007 and KE009 Formula One chassis.

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That's very interesting. Do you know the reason why the car did not compete in Round 1? Maybe it had an accident in testing or something?

And you are 100% sure that the car is chassis 3? If this is correct, it means that the car driven by Carlos Gaspar in 1972 was chassis 4 not 3 as previously believed...

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Old 22 Oct 2003, 21:56 (Ref:760035)   #67
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The reason why Takahara did not use T280 for the first round is probaby because the car simply was not ready as all the Grand Champion cars do have to go through some modifications to suit the fast Fuji Speedway circuit.

I am sure it is the chassis number 03 unless Lola got it wrong and put the wrong chassis number plate on the car, which obviously is still stuck on the chassis on the lower left hand side of the passenger seat.

It is even written on a book translated into Japanese that chassis number 03 was delivered to Noritake Takahara on 30th of March 1972 (probably the despatch date).
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Old 23 Oct 2003, 09:54 (Ref:760447)   #68
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The reason why Takahara did not use T280 for the first round is probaby because the car simply was not ready as all the Grand Champion cars do have to go through some modifications to suit the fast Fuji Speedway circuit.

I am sure it is the chassis number 03 unless Lola got it wrong and put the wrong chassis number plate on the car, which obviously is still stuck on the chassis on the lower left hand side of the passenger seat.

It is even written on a book translated into Japanese that chassis number 03 was delivered to Noritake Takahara on 30th of March 1972 (probably the despatch date).
Hi Kojima_KE007

I am surprised that, having had the car so long, Takahara didn't have it ready for the first round, as he would have had several months to adapt it to Fuji. I have some contact details for Mr Takahara, so maybe I should ask him about this to clear it up once and for all!

I am sure you are right, as it is unlikely that the wrong chassis plate would have been put on the car. I hope I did not offend you in questioning you about this but I wanted to know that you were sure of your facts, as I have found through researching my Lotus books that the memory can play tricks over time and that photographic evidence is the only reliable witness

You mention a book translated into Japanese - which one is this and do you know if it is available in English as well? Sounds like a book I should have read

Thanks again

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Old 23 Oct 2003, 12:30 (Ref:760655)   #69
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Re: Lola T280

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Glad to meet un Orléannais on Ten-Tenths ! Your name is not unknown for me (I was born and raised in Orléans), but I can't remember why... give me a clue !

BTW, I'm very impressed by the contain of this thread ; do you intend to enter the car at Classic in 2004 ?

We've a couple of passionate people here nearby Nantes rebuilding the Tecma which raced in 1975... hope to see it on the track too next July...

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Old 23 Oct 2003, 12:36 (Ref:760660)   #70
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The first round of the Grand Champion series 1972 was "20th of March 1972", and the delivery date being "30th of March 1972" there was no way that Takahara could run the Lola T280 at the first race. He even had to rent out a McLaren M12 from Sakai Racing.

I think you are getting mixed up with the "order date" and "delivery date". As Takahara does mention that he ordered the car, T280 chassis number 03, from Lola well before it was decided that the Grand Champion series will become an "Open Class" race from 1972 onwards.
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Old 23 Oct 2003, 13:43 (Ref:760762)   #71
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The first round of the Grand Champion series 1972 was "20th of March 1972", and the delivery date being "30th of March 1972" there was no way that Takahara could run the Lola T280 at the first race. He even had to rent out a McLaren M12 from Sakai Racing.

I think you are getting mixed up with the "order date" and "delivery date". As Takahara does mention that he ordered the car, T280 chassis number 03, from Lola well before it was decided that the Grand Champion series will become an "Open Class" race from 1972 onwards.
My mistake! I don't know why but I assumed that all the Grand Champion series races took place at the end of 1972!!! I had no idea that two races took place earlier in the year, so there was no way he could have got the car ready, certainly for the first one

So he drove the McLaren M12 rented from Sakai Racing in Round 1 (20/3/72), finishing 2nd, then Round 2 (6/4/72) he finished 4th. He drove three rounds of the Grand Champion series in the Lola T280, again all at Mt Fuji Raceway. These were 3/9/72 (1st), 10/10/72 (1st) and 23/11/72 (1st).

Thanks for putting me straight on that one!

Jeremy: how come we didn't notice this before

So we have the following:

HU01 - Ecurie Bonnier (c. Jan 72)
HU02 - Ecurie Bonnier (c. Jan 72)
HU03 - Noritake Takahara (Mar 72)
HU04 - Carlos Gaspar (c. Jun 72)

HU01 goes to Rouveyran at end of 72 then ? (Willy Widar?) (Swedish guy Alain mentioned)
HU02 was written off Le Mans 72
HU03 stays in Japan and is still there
HU04 goes back to Ecurie Bonnier (hence ex-BIP references in race reports) then to Lord, then Zaborowski, Malcolm Johnstone, Brian & David Auger (hence reference to HU04), then Geoffrey Marsh/Marsh Plant and then ? (Rosso Bianco?)

A few more things are falling into place...

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Old 23 Oct 2003, 13:58 (Ref:760787)   #72
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Michael, we did notice! We just didn't know when Takahara ordered/actually got hold of the car - We knew round 2 was on June 4th, but he was in the M12, so we surmised that he actually took delivery in time for round 3 in September....

Your summary seems plausible to me.
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Old 23 Oct 2003, 14:08 (Ref:760805)   #73
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Michael, we did notice! We just didn't know when Takahara ordered/actually got hold of the car - We knew round 2 was on June 4th, but he was in the M12, so we surmised that he actually took delivery in time for round 3 in September....

Your summary seems plausible to me.
Well, I didn't notice

The dates on the results I looked at were so far across the page that I completely missed them initially and when I did find them I only looked up the dates of the three rounds I knew Takahara had driven the T280 in

Do you know anything about this book that Kojima_KE007 mentions?

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Old 23 Oct 2003, 14:32 (Ref:760838)   #74
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In one of the e-mails, I did query whether round 2 was on 4/6 or 6/4, when I mentioned those numbers on a photo of Takhara's Lola...Presume that was a event preview photo.

The book is news to me, though it would be useful to know what other good information it contains.
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Old 23 Oct 2003, 14:50 (Ref:760861)   #75
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Sorry, I forgot to give you the details of the book that I mentioned before.

The book is titled "Cooper, Lola, Elva" and is "thought" to be a direct translation of an English text book.

Unfortunately I do not have the book right in front of me at the moment, but will give you more details as soon as I can (early next week the earliest).
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