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Old 2 Mar 2015, 21:19 (Ref:3510916)   #2501
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I will go a little further and say that it was actually an strategic move from Nissan not placing Quintarelli or De Oliveira in the line up. They are their best two drivers and stars in Japan. Bringing them to P1 would do two things, distract their attention from Japanese racing, and also possibly make them targets for Audi, Porsche or Toyota. I mean, inflate their salaries...
I though at least one of them would be in for Le Mans at the very least, not sure if not using your 2 best drivers is that good a strategy, the lineup doesn't have anyone on the level of guys like Lotterer, Davidson and Nakajima IMO, though I am happy to see 2 Spanish drivers on the team.
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There are some interesting comments in this article from Nissan's rivals regarding their GT-R LM.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117888
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What? I dont need to ask drivers to know the crash structures are there to handle the loads, not a firewall behind the engine. Ive been in an accident before in a road car nearly head on and was unharmed. They have crumple zones in front to absorb the energy. These race cars have even better materials and even higher standards. I think you misunderstood me. Hcl seemed like he was saying the firewall was there to prevent the engine intruding the cockpit on a collision. Then my reply was he'd be uninjured from the engine because of other safety features.
Question from my perspective is whether there is a shock absorbing structure between the engine and the front end of the tub ? There is evidently one in front of the gearbox, but what will prevent the engine from penetrating into the tub and possibly hurting the driver's legs ?

It would be interesting to understand if the front crash tests are performed with the full engine assembly in the case of the Nissan GT-R LM.
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Old 2 Mar 2015, 22:01 (Ref:3510928)   #2504
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There are some interesting comments in this article from Nissan's rivals regarding their GT-R LM.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117888
Maybe this is me reading between the lines too much but it seems that they mostly think it won't work great. Too many compromises, but they don't want to say it won't work outright in case they are wrong.
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Maybe this is me reading between the lines too much but it seems that they mostly think it won't work great. Too many compromises, but they don't want to say it won't work outright in case they are wrong.
They all seem to be damning it with faint praise...
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Autosport has selective quoting. I would like to see the whole interview.
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They all seem to be damning it with faint praise...
I cant blame them. they are on the same boat as us. This is either gonna go real well, or going to s**t sideways
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Old 3 Mar 2015, 03:44 (Ref:3510992)   #2508
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GTR seems slow although it is warming up.
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Do you guys think that someone is going to post some lap times and speed of the Audi and the Nissan?

I'm curious about what this Nissan can do...
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Our very own Lanky Turtle is the first (and possibly only) person on the internet to capture the Nissan on track with another LMP1 car.
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Our very own Lanky Turtle is the first (and possibly only) person on the internet to capture the Nissan on track with another LMP1 car.
We're undoubtedly lucky to have caught a glimpse of the Audi (In the R18 thread) and the Nissan. The speed comparison is a difficult one as only Nissan know what they are doing in testing. The Audi is visibly faster, but we have no idea what we are comparing at that time and on that place in the track. I do however feel that the Nissan's low speed cornering may be somewhat of a compromise. Those huge tunnels might need higher speeds to be truly effective.

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Old 3 Mar 2015, 18:26 (Ref:3511257)   #2513
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Our very own Lanky Turtle is the first (and possibly only) person on the internet to capture the Nissan on track with another LMP1 car.
Yet how many sources on the web are crediting him with the video (other than link to youtube)?

I also noticed that the Audi video is outpacing the Nissan by about 3 to 1 in views.
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Perhaps more telling than the car's speed (which is always a bit hard to judge in testing) is the fact that they apparently only managed two laps in two hours.

There have always been rumors that Nissan hasn't managed to do much running with the car yet, especially with the hybrid system working as well. So this might be an indication that they're still having some serious issues. Which also might explain why they weren't able to lure away big-name drivers to join them.
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Old 3 Mar 2015, 21:34 (Ref:3511338)   #2515
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Its a good thing they have a whole week then, yeah? Im not worried about their pace. Theyll get it together sooner or later.
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Perhaps more telling than the car's speed (which is always a bit hard to judge in testing) is the fact that they apparently only managed two laps in two hours.

There have always been rumors that Nissan hasn't managed to do much running with the car yet, especially with the hybrid system working as well. So this might be an indication that they're still having some serious issues. Which also might explain why they weren't able to lure away big-name drivers to join them.
Meh. Two laps in two hours isn't a big deal. Two small problems could easily take that long to diagnose, and repair. A four corner suspension adjustment could take 40 minutes or longer if you need alignments and stuff.
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Only thing that I'd question about that statement is that teams like Audi and Toyota, especially Audi, have gotten changing whole corners of their cars after accidents down to as little as 5 minutes reportedly.

In all fairness, though, Audi and Toyota probably know their cars' chassis packages, including suspensions bits, like the back of their hands by now, while the Nissan is still fairly new.

Still, it has to be a bit concerning rumors of a lack of pace and lack of reliability for the Nissan, espeically with the lack of evidence to support either the rumors or the contrary as of now.
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Changing a bunch of suspension parts and resetting them to a known value is worlds different than finding that value, particularly when there are probably a dozen variables just in the suspension at each wheel, and a dozen other things which affect the suspension, plus the whole for/aft balance. Add to that, that the car is basically unused so know one knows what works or doesn't ... plus it has a brand new ERS system ... I am in the "They will work it out over time" category.

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Cars were still running last night after it got dark so who knows how long that went on. Nissan is either doing their serious running at night or later in the week.

I was at the track for a few hours again today but did not see the Nissan on track. I've been told it did at least 2 laps late this afternoon. I've spent about 5 hours there the last couple days and saw the Nissan for about 30 seconds
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When you say "at the track" I assume you mean "walking along the fence looking as inconspicuous as possible," or did they actually let you in?
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Yet how many sources on the web are crediting him with the video (other than link to youtube)?

I also noticed that the Audi video is outpacing the Nissan by about 3 to 1 in views.
It's ok, some people ask permission to use the videos, or do sometimes at least and I'm always fine with it. I'm not any sort of pro photographer, it's all about what's on track for me.
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When you say "at the track" I assume you mean "walking along the fence looking as inconspicuous as possible," or did they actually let you in?
That's correct, the track is closed so I just move around to different spots on the perimeter and don't hang out for too long. Though it is tempting to walk up with a lawn chair and a cooler full of beer
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We're undoubtedly lucky to have caught a glimpse of the Audi (In the R18 thread) and the Nissan. The speed comparison is a difficult one as only Nissan know what they are doing in testing. The Audi is visibly faster, but we have no idea what we are comparing at that time and on that place in the track. I do however feel that the Nissan's low speed cornering may be somewhat of a compromise. Those huge tunnels might need higher speeds to be truly effective.

Just my two cents.
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Only thing that I'd question about that statement is that teams like Audi and Toyota, especially Audi, have gotten changing whole corners of their cars after accidents down to as little as 5 minutes reportedly.

In all fairness, though, Audi and Toyota probably know their cars' chassis packages, including suspensions bits, like the back of their hands by now, while the Nissan is still fairly new.

Still, it has to be a bit concerning rumors of a lack of pace and lack of reliability for the Nissan, espeically with the lack of evidence to support either the rumors or the contrary as of now.
Seeing as those bits are fully built, adjusted, and aligned, it's just a matter of disconnecting the halfshafts, quick connect brake line, and six bolts. One for each upright, and then the damper.
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It's ok, some people ask permission to use the videos, or do sometimes at least and I'm always fine with it. I'm not any sort of pro photographer, it's all about what's on track for me.
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