"FPR Needs Changes" - Frosty - Page 2

STEALTHY · 14 Nov 2010, 14:54 (Ref:2790184)

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

Oh yes, I am always serious (I am not very funny).

Anyway, FPR has had 100% more 1-2 finishes this year than DJR.

100% more 1-2 grid starts too, more top ten finishes; do I need to go on?

No, the results paint the picture.

'1st and 12th' beat a '3rd and 17th' any day of the week (and if you want to be pedantic, add up the numbers for all 3 cars, DJR is still outperforming the FACTORY team)

The 'dollars' should go to a team who wins championship (or places highest if its a 'holden' team)

yap · 21 Nov 2010, 10:55 (Ref:2793776)

Did I hear someone in the commentary say that there was an "out of character" moment for FPR today when they dropped Steven Richards car without the front wheels being on ???

Sounded like the norm for these guys

Chris - Melb · 21 Nov 2010, 11:27 (Ref:2793786)

It looks like 888 need the changes now. How hard can it be to put the correct amount of fuel in the car?

The changes at FPR have worked. Admittedly Steve Richard's pitstop was a bit of a '888 moment', but apart from that it was a great weekend for the team, again.

Oh, life is good!

STEALTHY · 22 Nov 2010, 08:27 (Ref:2794139)

No response to my post a while ago mr FPR's number 1 fan?
Or are we in agree-ance the dollars should go to the team who performs the best over the whole year (and at this stage, thats DJR)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

No, the results paint the picture.

'1st and 12th' beat a '3rd and 17th' any day of the week (and if you want to be pedantic, add up the numbers for all 3 cars, DJR is still outperforming the FACTORY team)

The 'dollars' should go to a team who wins championship (or places highest if its a 'holden' team)

bluesport · 22 Nov 2010, 08:38 (Ref:2794144)

FPR look like they may be an awesome team in 2011 and finally fulfill their potential.

STEALTHY · 22 Nov 2010, 08:45 (Ref:2794145)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

FPR look like they may be an awesome team in 2011 and finally fulfill their potential.

Lol'd.

V8 Supercars go better with 4 wheels on them.....

Its business as usual it seems.

Chris - Melb · 22 Nov 2010, 09:04 (Ref:2794153)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

No response to my post a while ago mr FPR's number 1 fan?
Or are we in agree-ance the dollars should go to the team who performs the best over the whole year (and at this stage, thats DJR)

No, not at all. I didn't respond because there is enough DJR drama going on, and I didn't want to add to it.

The iconic Dick Johnson Racing team needs to survive and prosper so they can back-up the FPR juggernaut next year.

I want to see all Ford teams do well, not just one.

Conrod Kieron · 22 Nov 2010, 09:06 (Ref:2794155)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

No response to my post a while ago mr FPR's number 1 fan?
Or are we in agree-ance the dollars should go to the team who performs the best over the whole year (and at this stage, thats DJR)

Why should they? if that where the case, HRT would be ****ed wouldn't they!

Both Ford and Holden pour the most money into the 'factory' team and that's the way it should be.

Its clear FPR have finally lifted their game with CLittle onboard and even to the layman, they will be a force next year.

I don't know weather your just out for a **** stir or being serious with most of your postings mate, i'd like to believe its the former...

Chris - Melb · 22 Nov 2010, 09:07 (Ref:2794156)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Lol'd.

V8 Supercars go better with 4 wheels on them.....

Its business as usual it seems.

At least FPR know how to put the proper amount of fuel in the car...

STEALTHY · 24 Nov 2010, 03:14 (Ref:2794998)

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

The iconic Dick Johnson Racing team needs to survive and prosper so they can back-up the FPR juggernaut next year

I'm sure without a wasted #6 car they will do better, but as it sits atm, DJR are still performing better (and thats with one of their seats wasted too)

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Originally Posted by Conrod Kieron

Why should they? if that where the case, HRT would be ****ed wouldn't they!

Both Ford and Holden pour the most money into the 'factory' team and that's the way it should be.

Its clear FPR have finally lifted their game with CLittle onboard and even to the layman, they will be a force next year.

I don't know weather your just out for a **** stir or being serious with most of your postings mate, i'd like to believe its the former...

Were talking ford dollars. Bringing up HRT, they aren't the force they were 10 years ago and i rank them the same as i do FPR, a failed team in terms of where they SHOULD be with the dollars being thrown at them.

I'm dead serious. I just speak my mind, which means i speak the truth. Some people cant handle the truth, and in this threads case, its FPVs lack of performance. Compare them to T8 who are a newer team, and didn't have the same factory backing, and the results paint a pretty obvious picture.

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

At least FPR know how to put the proper amount of fuel in the car...

I'm not a T8 fan, so not sure if thats meant to offend me. All it does is prove that they are infact human. But i'm sure for a fan not aligned with a brand who wants to choose a team, they'll choose the team that makes a rare mistake, over the team that has a rare burst of speed with hundreds of mistakes.

sizzle · 24 Nov 2010, 03:25 (Ref:2795001)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

I'm dead serious. I just speak my mind, which means i speak the truth. Some people cant handle the truth,

Probably should rephrase that to be "the truth as I see it" Stealthy.

Razor · 24 Nov 2010, 04:14 (Ref:2795007)

To me, FPR has been the Toyota F1 team of V8 Supercars, they have thrown tonnes of money and while they have had flashes of brillance, it's been too far and in between, looking like they have nothing special about them.

Chris - Melb · 24 Nov 2010, 09:39 (Ref:2795079)

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Originally Posted by Razor

To me, FPR has been the Toyota F1 team of V8 Supercars, they have thrown tonnes of money and while they have had flashes of brillance, it's been too far and in between, looking like they have nothing special about them.

I must be losing my memory.

I don't remember Toyota having multiple pole positions and multiple wins.

I don't remember their drivers regularly finishing in the top five in the drivers championship, if not top three.

I need to see my doctor, if only I could remember his name...

Chris - Melb · 24 Nov 2010, 10:02 (Ref:2795088)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Compare them to T8 who are a newer team, and didn't have the same factory backing, and the results paint a pretty obvious picture.

Roland Dane has been managing relatively small budget sedan teams for many years, unlike Tim Edwards, so nothing 'newer' there.

Apart from one year, 888 has had a significant factory backing AND big dollar sponsors.

FPR would not appear to have had the same level of non-factory commercial support as 888, in recent times at least. Blank panels and last-minute deals would be testimony to that. I have read that Tim Edwards says there are better funded teams in pit lane.

Conrod Kieron · 25 Nov 2010, 05:22 (Ref:2795489)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

I'm sure without a wasted #6 car they will do better, but as it sits atm, DJR are still performing better (and thats with one of their seats wasted too)

Were talking ford dollars. Bringing up HRT, they aren't the force they were 10 years ago and i rank them the same as i do FPR, a failed team in terms of where they SHOULD be with the dollars being thrown at them.

I'm dead serious. I just speak my mind, which means i speak the truth. Some people cant handle the truth, and in this threads case, its FPVs lack of performance. Compare them to T8 who are a newer team, and didn't have the same factory backing, and the results paint a pretty obvious picture.

Speaking YOUR mind does not equate to necessarily speaking the truth, your just giving your opinion just like me.

I'd suggest DJR/JC performed consistently better than FPR over the entire season, however since Little has taken control, FPR cars are at least on par with the DJR cars.
Will be interesting to see if JC runs a full FPR car next year, probably not given the cost/time etc and COTF looming but it may make sense to run the DJR/888 hybrid with FPR engines and suspension components.

Axeman444 · 25 Nov 2010, 05:55 (Ref:2795494)

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Originally Posted by Conrod Kieron

it may make sense to run the DJR/888 hybrid with FPR engines and suspension components.

would have thought they could flip a coin, DJR engines seem as good as FPR's at least half the time...

**GTRMagic** · 26 Nov 2010, 02:42 (Ref:2795890)

Is An Ex-HRT boffin the Answer?

F J Nedos · 26 Nov 2010, 03:24 (Ref:2795894)

Gee did Matt Nilsson get the ****s so much when he was instructed to change drivers for his engineering services at HRT, to the point where he decided to bugger off when an opportunity presented itself?

Also, if there is the possibility of 4 drivers at Ford Australia Racing Team, who could they realistically be (bearing mind driver salaries, team budget caps, sponsors etc...)

- #5 Frosty
- #6 Little Willy
- #55 Marathon Man

Who else? Could they afford another top salaried driver like courtney? If not, who else? We know it wont be BPB...

peckstar · 26 Nov 2010, 03:31 (Ref:2795896)

F.J the strong link has been JC in a pepsi backed car, using the no 18 franchise used to pay out charlies half of the team

It was in enerws two weeks ago, but has not been confirmed

F J Nedos · 26 Nov 2010, 03:35 (Ref:2795899)

Its the unconfirmed bit that I struggle with, as this is called the Silly Season for a reason.

Axeman444 · 26 Nov 2010, 04:34 (Ref:2795907)

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Originally Posted by F J Nedos

Also, if there is the possibility of 4 drivers at Ford Australia Racing Team, who could they realistically be (bearing mind driver salaries, team budget caps, sponsors etc...)

- #5 Frosty
- #6 Little Willy
- #55 Marathon Man

Who else? Could they afford another top salaried driver like courtney? If not, who else? We know it wont be BPB...

Moff Jnr?

motofan · 26 Nov 2010, 05:47 (Ref:2795908)

fj finally someone else who hasnt been swept away in the supposed jc to fpr news....... what about dean fiore ? he doesnt technically have a base ! he has 4 permanent staff therefore a need for fpr to recruit mechanics and what not. its going to be a customer and they have to bring some money

**Woolley** · 26 Nov 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2796060)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

I just speak my mind, which means i speak the truth.

A touch egotistical, if I may say so. I speak my mind too, which means I speak what I believe to be the truth. I also acknowledge that other people have different opinions and time or additional information may prove me wrong. And so I make allowances for that when posting by trying to be nice to people. Saves a lot of crowing and name calling along the way.

If what you say is the truth at all times, not a lot of point in the rest of us joining in the discussion. We may as well just appoint you God and close the thread.

That applies to a few regular posters, STEALTHY just happens to be the person who made the announcement.

Driver TBA · 26 Nov 2010, 19:49 (Ref:2796199)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

A touch egotistical

A touch?

Understatement of the year Woolley!

**Woolley** · 26 Nov 2010, 21:32 (Ref:2796223)

Like I said, I try to be nice.

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