"FPR Needs Changes" - Frosty - Page 3

peckstar · 26 Nov 2010, 23:58 (Ref:2796249)

yes i never argue with him/her anymore, s/he took his/her bat and ball and went home.

its great , you never have someone trying to trip you up by using half your sentance anymore

im hopeful that FPR have lifetd their game, they certainly showed some great moves on the weekend in race one, but a let down in race two for dumbrell, is that one FPR's fault or is thats Nash's fault

bluesport · 27 Nov 2010, 00:23 (Ref:2796255)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

Like I said, I try to be nice.

Is that why you call yourself Woolley?.........you're all warm and cuddly?

david5 · 27 Nov 2010, 04:15 (Ref:2796305)

Well with JC reportedly gone to HRT, who now for all the Pepsi Fizz ?

STEALTHY · 2 Dec 2010, 03:45 (Ref:2798429)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

A touch egotistical, if I may say so. I speak my mind too, which means I speak what I believe to be the truth. I also acknowledge that other people have different opinions and time or additional information may prove me wrong. And so I make allowances for that when posting by trying to be nice to people. Saves a lot of crowing and name calling along the way.

If what you say is the truth at all times, not a lot of point in the rest of us joining in the discussion. We may as well just appoint you God and close the thread.

That applies to a few regular posters, STEALTHY just happens to be the person who made the announcement.

FPR DONT have any championships, and adding all 3 cars together, are in a worse position than DJR in the championship this year. Thats not an opinion, its a fact.

Chris - Melb says that FPR are the 'best' performing ford team (and deserve next years dollars), which is infact untrue.

If were talking opinions, i think FPR are crap, and DJR are good, thats an opinion (and differing to alot of people) and i accept any opposing opinions....
Alot of threads on here ask for opinions, so your 'heres god, close the forum' statement isn't needed (love the sarcasm btw, something i can really get behind).
I do post opinions aswell, and am happy to be proven wrong (i'll be eating a hat when JC gets the number 1)

Chris - Melb · 2 Dec 2010, 19:51 (Ref:2798778)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

........I do post opinions aswell, and am happy to be proven wrong (i'll be eating a hat when JC gets the number 1)

You had better buy a second hat, in case FPR proves you wrong next year too!

STEALTHY · 3 Dec 2010, 03:24 (Ref:2798926)

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

You had better buy a second hat, in case FPR proves you wrong next year too!

I had a look through the JC thread and turns out i didn't make the comment 'ill eat my hat if JC wins the championship' like i thought i did, so i'll just hold onto it for next you for you.
(At least you guys have 2 drivers capable of contending now, hopefully the 'FPR moments' a certain commentator made mention of leave with BPB

)

Razor · 3 Dec 2010, 11:15 (Ref:2799012)

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Originally Posted by F J Nedos

Ford Australia Racing Team

Somehow, I don't think the Ford factory team wouldn't adopt the name because everyone would know them as "F.A.R.T."

F J Nedos · 3 Dec 2010, 11:23 (Ref:2799018)

Hence the blue letters

**Woolley** · 3 Dec 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2799073)

It's already been done by the Footwork Arrows Racing Team, anyway. In that case of the fart in a collander variety.

Gaz170 · 4 Dec 2010, 09:40 (Ref:2799435)

I wonder if "the best performing Ford team" regrets not moving Frosty's car into the garage so everyone could work on it and get it out in time today?

Was very surprised they elected to leave it in pit lane.

Chris - Melb · 4 Dec 2010, 21:02 (Ref:2799654)

By 'best performing', do you mean the car that out-qualified the two other title contenders and was ahead of them went all three contenders crashed out?

Winterbottom didn't have much to lose by gambling and staying out on slicks, what were the other two teams excuses for staying out? What were they thinking!

FPR lost 5 or 10 minutes because the front wheel wouldn't come off. Not sure if they had 10 people working on the car that it would have come off any quicker!

If you want to criticise every single little thing about a team, may I suggest you now move on to the Holden Racing Team, or the big buck funded Kelly Racing (a team that never looks like winning a race on sheer speed)?

STEALTHY · 5 Dec 2010, 00:57 (Ref:2799746)

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

By 'best performing', do you mean the car that out-qualified the two other title contenders and was ahead of them went all three contenders crashed out?

Winterbottom didn't have much to lose by gambling and staying out on slicks, what were the other two teams excuses for staying out? What were they thinking!

FPR lost 5 or 10 minutes because the front wheel wouldn't come off. Not sure if they had 10 people working on the car that it would have come off any quicker!

If you want to criticise every single little thing about a team, may I suggest you now move on to the Holden Racing Team, or the big buck funded Kelly Racing (a team that never looks like winning a race on sheer speed)?

He was taking the **** out of your earlier comment.....
Being in front of 1 race hardly makes you a championship contender.

Kelly racing is 2 years old. FPR is 10 years old. In 8 years time, then we can discusss KR's achievements.

**GTRMagic** · 5 Dec 2010, 04:10 (Ref:2799764)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Kelly racing is 2 years old. FPR is 10 years old. In 8 years time, then we can discusss KR's achievements.

Perkins Engineering (which morphed into Kelly Racing) has been in existence since 1986. Please dont perpetuate the media spin that it is only 2 seasons old

If DJR can claim to be 30 years old despite legal entity and ownership changes, the 'newness' of Kelly Racing doednt fly

STEALTHY · 5 Dec 2010, 04:14 (Ref:2799766)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Perkins Engineering (which morphed into Kelly Racing) has been in existence since 1986. Please dont perpetuate the media spin that it is only 2 seasons old

If DJR can claim to be 30 years old despite legal entity and ownership changes, the 'newness' of Kelly Racing doednt fly

I'm not disputing the origins at all. We can bring history into it if he wants to. Larry has alot of records

Steven richards does not.....

But as far as being IN HOUSE and not apart of the previous PE, they are 2 years old.

STEALTHY · 5 Dec 2010, 08:16 (Ref:2799797)

So in conclusion to the 'who deserves ford dollars next year'

DJR have the Championship.
They finished higher (collective 11 compared to FPRs 18) in the teams
And adding the 3rd driver (24 - 27) they also easily proved to be the best 'ford' team.

If i was Mr ford, i know exactly where my dollars would be going......

MarkInTheStands · 5 Dec 2010, 19:36 (Ref:2800061)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

So in conclusion to the 'who deserves ford dollars next year'

DJR have the Championship.
They finished higher (collective 11 compared to FPRs 18) in the teams
And adding the 3rd driver (24 - 27) they also easily proved to be the best 'ford' team.

If i was Mr ford, i know exactly where my dollars would be going......

But . . . they aren't Fords

STEALTHY · 6 Dec 2010, 01:38 (Ref:2800152)

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Originally Posted by MarkInTheStands

But . . . they aren't Fords

I never said anything about the cars? I said the sponsor dolllars

peckstar · 6 Dec 2010, 01:43 (Ref:2800155)

so why dont they sponsor a holden then?

but you are full of contradictions

MarkInTheStands · 6 Dec 2010, 02:04 (Ref:2800160)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

I never said anything about the cars? I said the sponsor dolllars

I can see the reason for not giving DJR and T8 the dollars back in 07, it is quite simple, both of those teams had large sponsors that were putting in a majority of the money, the two others teams were a little bit down with sponsorship, so without knowing how long the GFC would roll, they made the call that would see 4 strong Ford teams for at least 2 more years, that was what they got.

Having said that, Ford who globally made a quid last year, might accually be able to continue sponsoring 3 x 3 car teams next year.

But put simply, FPR, DJR, and SBR should after this years display be on Ford Dollars, how equal that should be, well that is up to Ford's Racing director, but I would think the amount of $$$ for DJR would be dependant on who they signed both in the Driver and technical ranks. Cause looking at it from a Blue side of the fence, based on last years results, FPR are the only Ford team who will not have major losses, from last season to next season, at least not on the car that was a factor in the championship.

STEALTHY · 6 Dec 2010, 02:13 (Ref:2800164)

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Originally Posted by MarkInTheStands

I can see the reason for not giving DJR and T8 the dollars back in 07, it is quite simple, both of those teams had large sponsors that were putting in a majority of the money, the two others teams were a little bit down with sponsorship, so without knowing how long the GFC would roll, they made the call that would see 4 strong Ford teams for at least 2 more years, that was what they got.

Having said that, Ford who globally made a quid last year, might accually be able to continue sponsoring 3 x 3 car teams next year.

But put simply, FPR, DJR, and SBR should after this years display be on Ford Dollars, how equal that should be, well that is up to Ford's Racing director, but I would think the amount of $$$ for DJR would be dependant on who they signed both in the Driver and technical ranks. Cause looking at it from a Blue side of the fence, based on last years results, FPR are the only Ford team who will not have major losses, from last season to next season, at least not on the car that was a factor in the championship.

Good points about DJR (even tho its still not actually confirmed where JC will be yet).
Remember dick said he is loyal to running 'fords' so mr ford could give dick $0 and still have them as a ford backed team (meanning the same things that happened with T8 wont happen with DJR)

I'm not really sure i'd be holding my hopes up for FPR over DJR, this thread has highlighted that the people there now ARE the problem....

MarkInTheStands · 6 Dec 2010, 02:47 (Ref:2800177)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Good points about DJR (even tho its still not actually confirmed where JC will be yet).
Remember dick said he is loyal to running 'fords' so mr ford could give dick $0 and still have them as a ford backed team (meanning the same things that happened with T8 wont happen with DJR)

I'm not really sure i'd be holding my hopes up for FPR over DJR, this thread has highlighted that the people there now ARE the problem....

A few people have been moved on mate, that was reported just before the start of the Tasmania event. I am still hoping the strategist from the Sydney event gets the punt because Frosty should have gone to wets, I said that as soon as Russell put it in the wall and Car #5 was on it way down Dawn Fraser avenue. Trust me it was getting very wet at the track, well at least the part of the Track I was at.

Also I remember Dick has been threatening to run a Holden for many years in the Early 90's if Ford didn't pony up so this is nothing new for DJR.

Still I look at the results for this year, JC finished every race. Frosty finished all but 3 and the team (and 1 DJR car) were DQ'ed at Hamilton. Now if Frosty wasn't punted by the GRM car at Queensland, and they put the Brake discs on the right way for R2 in Hamilton, Frosty could have been much closer to Jamie and James in the last round. Of course that would be for nought at the moment as Frosty still gave the car a Radical Wheel Alignment at T5 and the car dropped it lunch on Race 2, but still they were in with a chance. I also think Will, is going to push Frosty and the team to be better and hopefully more consistent.

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