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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:02 (Ref:894823)   #26
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Hmm, not sure yet how this "one engine" rule affects friday testing sessions. I'd say that everyone set the rev limiter a couple revs lower. Now, how much?
I'd agree with Red. We know that the Ferrari's were rock solid over the past few years. I'd guess that they are more confident about the reliability of their lumps than say, Honda, would be. Willaims will be cautious to start. I think that we cannot righ-off the season yet, but I will admit surprise at Ferrari's relative pace.
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:03 (Ref:894824)   #27
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As much as I would love to see Schumacher score his seventh and final WDC, it wouldn't break my heart too terribly much to have the WDC go to the last race like last year, with Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and Renault fighting tooth and nail. A Raikonnen WDC for 2004 would sit just fine with me.
Very well put - I completely agree. What ires me is that many people here would be just as happy for Ferrari to be virtually out of contention - considering that the reason for that would almost certainly be tyre-wars I find that a very difficult wish to empathise with.
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:06 (Ref:894826)   #28
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Jeez, Adam, from the list of numbers of laps run, Sauber's numbers are high... Maybe they really are testing for Ferrai and sacrificing their own pace over the weekend?
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:16 (Ref:894833)   #29
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Hmm yes, and Ralf did 26 laps while Montoya only 19...
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:21 (Ref:894839)   #30
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word has it that the Bridgestones were getting better and better on the Ferrari's - and there is a lot more to come- so don't blame Ferrari for your team's under-performance -
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:24 (Ref:894842)   #31
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i don't think they were running light....i just think it's a matter of them being blindingly quick out of the box...i never put much emphasis on friday practice, but watching yesterday's session left me shaking my head....either the ferraris are that good, or everyone else is that bad or sandbagging....i do not recall recently such a disparity right from the git go....shades of 2002?.....
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 12:39 (Ref:894869)   #32
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AdamAshmore
[B]1 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:24.718
2 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:24.826
3 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:25.757
4 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:25.786
5 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:25.853
6 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:25.882
7 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:26.206
8 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.215
9 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:26.312
10 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.579
11 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:26.601
12 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:26.967
13 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:26.969
16 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:27.710
17 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:27.724
18 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:27.807
19 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:27.826
21 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:28.991
22 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:29.708
23 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:30.061

Where are you number 24 ?????!!!!!!
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 13:23 (Ref:894921)   #33
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Yeah it's a bit daft for people to be calling off the betting after Friday practice, at least wait for qually! Schumy was fastest in practice in Oz last season but struggled a bit on race day. Here's hoping for a repeat performance. Am I Schumie bashing? You're damn right folks!
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 13:26 (Ref:894923)   #34
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BTW.... how come your visiting other forums... are you cheating on the MODs knowlesy...
You should try it ralfy. Some of the other forums are bloody hilarious.....so much as mention Schuey in a positive way and everyone starts bashing him with Jerez 1997.....even the so called moderators! Needless to say, I haven't signed up to these forums!;laugh:


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Where are you number 24 ?????!!!!!!
Don't know how that copyand paste didn't work! I didn't look too closely afterwards. I bet Micheal's Dad would have sent the lawers round! Not sure how that happened as it was a full cut and paste. I like the new F1-live screens too.

14. 38 ZONTA Toyota 1'27"165
15. 35 DAVIDSON BAR Honda 1'27"516

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24 39 GLOCK Jordan Ford B 1'30"291 + 0'05"573


It is a shame thatMinardi didn't get a third driver, because I reckon his number would be 310!
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 13:49 (Ref:894945)   #36
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Anyone seen the new race display for TV? Just seen it on the news and it looks great! It seems that finally those yellow blocks with black numbers are gone! Hurrah!
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 14:43 (Ref:894989)   #37
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Tyres tyres tyres. Bridgestone worked hard to avoid the embarassment of last year, and it shows. Now Michelin will up their game, and things will level out - I hope. In the meantime, FORZA FERRARI!
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I just called Mark and he confirmed that his Jag had 200 litres on board, old tyres and he wore his heavy runners. AND he was restricting it to 12000rpm to save the donk. He conservatively estimates a 1.19 today.

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Old 5 Mar 2004, 15:55 (Ref:895038)   #39
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1.24 ish? Comparing that with last year's pole time suggests either they were running very light or Ferrari have found around 3 seconds per lap since last year...

I guess they might have been running a little light!
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All teams during a Grand Prix weekend have to abide by the minimum weight limit for car and driver. There is no chance that Ferrrari where running under this limit, as some teams do during winter testing.
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'I just called Mike, and he confirmed his rev limiter was initially set at 5k rpm. He couldn't have his engine started, then the crew raised it to 6krpms. Tomorrow, his target is under 1 minute
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Old 5 Mar 2004, 16:14 (Ref:895057)   #42
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1.24 ish? Comparing that with last year's pole time suggests either they were running very light or Ferrari have found around 3 seconds per lap since last year...
That isn't as far fetched as it first appears - last year they were using the old F2002 for this race, and even when the F2003GA came along it was run all year with serious weight distribution problems which they never full came to terms with. If the F2004 is an improved F2003GA with this essential flaw ironed-out we could be seeing what was promised last year, ie a car which is even more of a step than the seminal F2002. Add-in improved Bridgestone tyres and three seconds might not be beyond credibility, especially since (as has been pointed out) the car might have been lightly fuelled, but it would not be under the weight limit.
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All i gotta say is i hope they were running on fumes.

We shall find out in a few hours i guess eh?
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1.24 ish? Comparing that with last year's pole time suggests either they were running very light or Ferrari have found around 3 seconds per lap since last year...

I guess they might have been running a little light!
Well... I'll eat my schus!!! At this rate, in about 10 years we can look forward to sub 60 second laps
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It's not that surprising the Ferrari is 3 seconds quicker than last years Ferrari at Melbourne.....think about it, they're running a car this year that's two years in advance of what it was at Oz last year.
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So Ferrari werent running as light on Friday as we all thought!! He smashed the lap record in the 3rd lap i think.... which is incredible....
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