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Old 5 Aug 2019, 02:36 (Ref:3921419)   #76
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About gearboxes, ever TCR car (except DSG Cupra, Audi and VW) uses 6 speed sequential gearbox.
Audi, Alfa, Cupra, Honda FK2, Lada, Opel (Vauxhall, Holden), Peugeot and VW uses Sadev
Honda FK8, Hyundai, Kia and Lynk&Co, uses XTrac
Renault uses 3MO
Subaru uses Modena Engineering
Great info!

Why did JAS (Honda) change from Sadev to Xtrac? JAS' Civic rally car with the Sadev box was mighty... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQrU24-u16U No silly turbo either... (Ruddy turbos ruining everything. )
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 02:42 (Ref:3921420)   #77
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With so many reliability issues this weekend it seems the tide of public opinion has turned pretty badly on the Facebook groups. Fickle fans indeed
What, Speedcafe ? lols. I’m surprised they had time to come up for air from Opel Opel Roland Scotty on repeat.

They are proper touring cars, or as close as you can get these days. . Imho a bit of fragility is a good thing. Mechanical sympathy is a lost art these days. Looks like A H needs a few lessons.
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 02:49 (Ref:3921421)   #78
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Also of note - the teams having issues mainly seem to be the V8SC teams. Could it be they are not giving these their full attention?
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 03:10 (Ref:3921422)   #79
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Complacency, and trying to run them on less than a shoestring.
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 04:40 (Ref:3921427)   #80
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Will this series continue an ongoing musical chairs approach to drivers and seats?

Mr Ingall was unsure whether he'll be attending the next round, despite his podium finishes and desire to do so.
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 04:41 (Ref:3921428)   #81
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Will this series continue an ongoing musical chairs approach to drivers and seats?

Mr Ingall was unsure whether he'll be attending the next round, despite his podium finishes and desire to do so.
Must be like BJR and sponsor musical chairs....
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 04:44 (Ref:3921429)   #82
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Will this series continue an ongoing musical chairs approach to drivers and seats?

Mr Ingall was unsure whether he'll be attending the next round, despite his podium finishes and desire to do so.
Car availability and associated costs to cover the running?
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 04:45 (Ref:3921431)   #83
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Wise head.

Knows the track very well, knows how to manage the tyres, and quite fond of a car with functioning aero.
Totally agree
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 05:19 (Ref:3921433)   #84
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Will this series continue an ongoing musical chairs approach to drivers and seats?

Mr Ingall was unsure whether he'll be attending the next round, despite his podium finishes and desire to do so.
Up to those paying the appearance fees, i.e. the promotor.
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 05:23 (Ref:3921434)   #85
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What, Speedcafe ? lols. I’m surprised they had time to come up for air from Opel Opel Roland Scotty on repeat.
Sadly I'm talking about primarily the TCRA Facebook page.

Has gone from adoration to very unflattering comments.

There's no doubt the teams in question have the ability to pull it together but how long will it take?

Gotta say Jordan Cox looks like be put on a good display for GRM, I haven't watched the races yet but I'll catch up soon.

Still wish TCR would put the bloody races on YouTube though, but it seems that we're just stuck with the Shannons Nationals coverage on Facebook, which sucks.
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 05:26 (Ref:3921435)   #86
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Races including yesterday's are on YouTube, or at least were last night.
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Up to those paying the appearance fees, i.e. the promotor.
Surely it would be to their benefit to get this situation stabilised?
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Old 5 Aug 2019, 05:38 (Ref:3921438)   #88
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Car availability and associated costs to cover the running?
Totally agree Sandgroper, Russell can't commit to anymore round's because he will have to find a full budget to continue, about $40K is what I am hearing.

Having just spent last weekend at the Snetterton BTCC round, as a guest of WSR, I was surprised to learn that very few BTCC driver are actually being paid, Colin Turkington is one of the few drivers earning a living out of driving, because he not only get paid by the team but is also allowed to have his own sponsors on the car.

As I am reliably told is the case with most of the BTCC drivers, who bring in many cases the entire budget to the team.

Given that Mr Gow's show not only enjoys live TV of a very high standard and popularity but also attract's a large spectator following [25,000 paying spectators at Snetterton on race day] It appear that most of the BTCC drivers are able to find or fund GBP500,000 typical team budget.

It will be interesting indeed to see if Russell can find the necessary budget to continue with MPC.

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Races including yesterday's are on YouTube, or at least were last night.
Thanks!

They are posted under Miranda Productions, but not on the TCR Australia YouTube page.

Just strange, its as if ARG doesn't WANT to make these things accessible. it is one of the GREAT things about TCR in Europe.
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Totally agree Sandgroper, Russell can't commit to anymore round's because he will have to find a full budget to continue, about $40K is what I am hearing.

Having just spent last weekend at the Snetterton BTCC round, as a guest of WSR, I was surprised to learn that very few BTCC driver are actually being paid, Colin Turkington is one of the few drivers earning a living out of driving, because he not only get paid by the team but is also allowed to have his own sponsors on the car.

As I am reliably told is the case with most of the BTCC drivers, who bring in many cases the entire budget to the team.

Given that Mr Gow's show not only enjoys live TV of a very high standard and popularity but also attract's a large spectator following [25,000 paying spectators at Snetterton on race day] It appear that most of the BTCC drivers are able to find or fund GBP500,000 typical team budget.

It will be interesting indeed to see if Russell can find the necessary budget to continue with MPC.

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Cheers Mark,

Im guessing this is somewhere that Rusty hasnt had to dabble with for a while (Sponsors/Finance) but maybe he will have a few supporters after recent events. However as good as it is bring in the ex Stars, its great watching the younger brigade have a crack. On the flipside given Rustys situation I would be trying to get as many drives as I could whilst I was still competitive.....Money depending as we said.

thanks again Mark.
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Throw in his retainer which I am sure, knowing his eye for the $, is not a discount rate!
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Great info!

Why did JAS (Honda) change from Sadev to Xtrac? JAS' Civic rally car with the Sadev box was mighty... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQrU24-u16U No silly turbo either... (Ruddy turbos ruining everything. )
No idea but TCR site lists FK8 with both Sadev and Xtrack.
But if they switched or it's available with both, that I don't know.
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Are the spate of mechanical problems creeping in a problem of the cars, or a problem of the bill payers in the entries in the series maybe stretching the life of components in the first season?
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Depends on the car.

The Subarus and Renaults still aren't a proven package, despite the Subarus being in active competition since 2015.

The Bright Golfs have been around since 2017, having raced in Germany, and then throughout Asia. Both could probably do with a full rebuild, considering they were purchased 'as-raced'. Ms Whitley's car has gone through several radiators, but moreso due to the rough-and-tumble of TCR racing. (Fun fact: At the most recent round of TCR Europe, the VAG Customer Racing support track had it's entire stock of radiators sold by Saturday afternoon).
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Still wish TCR would put the bloody races on YouTube though, but it seems that we're just stuck with the Shannons Nationals coverage on Facebook, which sucks.
You're not aware they are showing all TCR Shannons Nationals coverage on SBS?

Also SBS on Demand page has the races
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In an apartment block with no free to air antennas, which is the norm now.

Didn't try SBS, but YouTube shits on Facebook for post event viewing. Can't for the life of me work out why the promoters don't want to put it on Yt
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So given previous discussion re lap times, it appears that at QR TCR front runners are 3-4 seconds slower than V8SA front runners in Q trim and 5-6 seconds slower in R trim. Nothing to be ashamed of there - in fact the TCR cars are about the same pace as TCM in racing conditions.

TCR is certainly up there on pace.
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So given previous discussion re lap times, it appears that at QR TCR front runners are 3-4 seconds slower than V8SA front runners in Q trim and 5-6 seconds slower in R trim. Nothing to be ashamed of there - in fact the TCR cars are about the same pace as TCM in racing conditions.

TCR is certainly up there on pace.
yeah i saw that comment (for whatever reason it was made) and they didnt look slow on track. laptime is irrelevant if the racing is good and they dont look visibly slow. speeding them up by 5 seconds a lap is not going to improve things, in fact, it may even make it worse if that lap time is gained in areas like braking.
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