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Old 14 Jun 2000, 00:07 (Ref:17113)   #1
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Use the many aerodynamics concepts currently banned in F1 (steering fins, variable incidence wings, suspension mounted wings, fan suction, venturi diffuser sidepods, etc). Add banned mechanical concepts such as asymmetric braking. Drop in a low percentage nitro motor built to run just a few laps.
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 00:33 (Ref:17116)   #2
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Franklin, sometimes.... just sometimes.....

Now, surely the great thing about having different formulae is precisely that. They are DIFFERENT.

Drag racing is your thing. That is clear from many threads. So be it. There's nothing wrong with drag racing.

I, on the other hand, get a kick out of seeing a car turn a corner once in a while, and I enjoy seeing them come back and try the same corner lap after lap. And I also like seeing them come by in a different order occasionally.

It is easy to say that you can make a wiz-bang speedster go faster by taking everything that has been ruled off-limits and bunging it on the poor little beastie.

I rather think that there is technical achievement to be seen in the F1 designers looking at the narrowly defined parameters of car design that they are allowed, and then using them to find optimum performance - within those parameters. It is, if you will, a formula. And that is why it is christened as such.

That, in my book, takes real ingenuity.
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 10:56 (Ref:17180)   #3
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zzzzzzzz.......
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 12:17 (Ref:17192)   #4
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Franklin give it a break hey? And you want to know why they gave you the punt from 7g?? Go on, buy yourself a mirror and have a good hard look at yourself...
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 12:17 (Ref:17193)   #5
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Drag - RACING? Or just a drag.

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There's nothing wrong with drag racing.
I could take issue with you on that statement Tim. And I will.

How can you call it racing? There's no overtaking, just a faster car, no out braking or driver skill (unless you class hangining on for grim dreath until the engine blows a skill). In fact its no better than golf in terms of a sport.

Wonder if this'll raise a reaction?

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Old 14 Jun 2000, 12:24 (Ref:17196)   #6
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Theres lots of overtaking in drag racing Peter...duurrrr...

But couldnt they improve touring cars and nascar by getting rid of the roof, adding wings here there and everywhere, and giving them a 3 stage booster of an Appolo rocket. Think about it, how fast would that go!!!
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 13:27 (Ref:17210)   #7
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CT. You mean like "my engine is much more powerful than yours, overtaking", or "I can out-brake you into this corner and then pass you on the apex", type of overtaking. I know what I mean and there's none of it in drag racing.

Mind you, there's not much of it in F1 so I think they've already been listening to Franklin.
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 14:01 (Ref:17214)   #8
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Hey Peter...

You bet it'll raise a reaction. And this is soooo off topic too.

Don't knock golf. Ever. Fine sport. It's a good way to

a) Get exercise
b) Take money off your mates
c) Relax after the (excitement/anger*) of a grand prix


* Substitute either word, depending on whether you watch the GP, or find it irritating that bugger all happens in most of them any more.
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 15:50 (Ref:17230)   #9
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By the way, those wide low profile tires that have predominated in open wheel racing since the mid-sixties were invented by a DRAG RACER (Mickey Thompson).

And Peter given the way in which you so loudly protest I wonder whether it is in fact due to the realization that a small team working in a well-equipped NASCAR/drag racing shop could build an open wheeler which would blow away your beloved F1 cars.
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 17:19 (Ref:17245)   #10
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By the way, those wide low profile tires that have predominated in open wheel racing since the mid-sixties were invented by a DRAG RACER (Mickey Thompson).

And Peter given the way in which you so loudly protest I wonder whether it is in fact due to the realization that a small team working in a well-equipped NASCAR/drag racing shop could build an open wheeler which would blow away your beloved F1 cars.
There's some reaction then.

Weren't slicks invented by Firestone in the sixties and first used by Chapperal? Don't know about any dragster bloke inventing them. He may have asked the tyre companies to develop something.

If your contention about the small team is correct, why aren't they doing it? Surely F1/Indy pays more than Drag/NASCAR?

Golf? A sport? Nah, you're kidding me!!!
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 18:48 (Ref:17262)   #11
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The first wide low profile tires ever used in open wheel racing were Goodyears built to Mickey Thompson's specifications and introduced at the 1963 Indy 500 on Thompson's team cars. (Maybe the wrong person is administrating this forum.)
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Old 14 Jun 2000, 23:55 (Ref:17315)   #12
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The first wide low profile tires ever used in open wheel racing were Goodyears built to Mickey Thompson's specifications and introduced at the 1963 Indy 500 on Thompson's team cars. (Maybe the wrong person is administrating this forum.)
Excuse me Franklin, I'm one of the administrators of this forum. The others are KC, Liz and Invader.
I fail to see what the use of the first wide low profile tyres by Mickey Thompson has to do with being the wrong person to administrate this forum.
Are you referring to the fact we don't know what we are talking about?
Well, we don't know everything, you know.
We are fans of the sport in the first place and we like to learn more about it by visiting these forums and reading what other members have to say about a certain subject.
Members like you, Franklin.
You have a far greater technical knowledge than I do, so all I can do is learn from you.
But I think it's inappropriate to say that whenever a person doesn't possess the same knowledge as you do, he's the wrong person to do the job.

If you have a problem with the way this forum is administrated, you are invited to e-mail me with your complaints.
They will be read and taken into account as long as they're rational.
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Old 15 Jun 2000, 01:02 (Ref:17327)   #13
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Oh sorry Peter, i didn't sound sarcastic enough

Im not ragging drag racing, what a way to spend saturday might, getting your ears and brain blasted in to outer spacemit is just that circuit stuff is what i was bred on, and i can see myself dying with it...

Hey Franklin, I think your the greatest! I think you would make a fantastic moderator...Bwahahahah....

[Sorry, sarcastic again]
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Old 15 Jun 2000, 08:35 (Ref:17359)   #14
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Actually, to be a little serious, this should really be in the technical forum.

Mr F. I was referring to slicks whilst you actually just meant reduced profile tyres. How did that help in drag racing then? The rears on a dragster always look like doughnuts to me. Low profile tyres are generally noted for their cornering properties (reduced slip etc.) so why did your drag man need these tyres?

CT. Obviously you play golf to improve your career development. Can't think of any other reason.
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Thanks. I needed to laugh at the ridiculous again.
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