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Old 24 Sep 2018, 07:17 (Ref:3852345)   #51
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Well done folks, glad you all completed the event safely especially considering the weather!
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 08:02 (Ref:3852346)   #52
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Was up there helping friends racing, looked a nice mixed grid of Escorts. Big shame about the weather.
When i talked to guys back in april/may about this 50th escort doo, it was going to be htp/fia cars only ?
Just as well the allsorts escort boys boulstered the grid due to lack of fia stuff.
Static display stuff was top shelf material.
Well done to HSCC for running the meeting in such wet conditions.
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 08:54 (Ref:3852354)   #53
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There sure was a wide disparity in car specification but it made for an entertaining couple of races. Just about dried out now! Thanks to all for the pretty unique spectacle. Next stop Castle Combe for the classic!
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 10:22 (Ref:3852360)   #54
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I think it was inevitable that the grid would have to be opened to more than just Gp1/2/5 stuff. Not a big deal to me as they were all Escorts, just some were more period than others.....

I viewed the day as a chance to support the HSCC and be involved in a one off occasion. Of course there were going to be those out for glory, but all that was of little interest to me. (Not that I would have been competitive with the front runners anyway )

Most important was returning home with in undamaged car. It may be only a blue oval product, but the repair costs are same as any other race car....
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 11:19 (Ref:3852370)   #55
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When i talked to guys back in april/may about this 50th escort doo, it was going to be htp/fia cars only ?
Just as well the allsorts escort boys boulstered the grid due to lack of fia stuff.
Hopefully the "allsorts Escorts" will come out to play in the CSCC Special Saloons and Modsports series occasionally. A good place for them, I would have thought. One or two play already, but always good to have more, and only 4/5 meetings a year.
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 11:29 (Ref:3852372)   #56
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Hopefully the "allsorts Escorts" will come out to play in the CSCC Special Saloons and Modsports series occasionally. A good place for them, I would have thought. One or two play already, but always good to have more, and only 4/5 meetings a year.
One or two looked appropriate but probably the ones that are already racing with CSCC!
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 14:59 (Ref:3852407)   #57
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A few pit lane shots of the 'Tenthers' getting ready for the second race.
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 16:30 (Ref:3852418)   #58
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No idea about escorts Iain, a legitimate question! but Cortina had them, at least mk1's

I had wobbly steering on a road car I bought some years back, all the bottom ball joint bolts were loose, lock tabs fitted but not bent over!

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A few pit lane shots of the 'Tenthers' getting ready for the second race.
Thanks Cliff. And look- almost dry! The only wet of any consequence left was as you entered the pit straight from Clarke Curve, where it had been running across earlier. One or two got a tank slapper on! The trick seemed to be, to unload the steering as you went through the wet bit.....
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No idea about escorts Iain, a legitimate question! but Cortina had them, at least mk1's

I had wobbly steering on a road car I bought some years back, all the bottom ball joint bolts were loose, lock tabs fitted but not bent over!
I was being sarcastic Joe. Of coarse you are correct. I keep a book on jobs to do and one was to lock wire the bolts. Not ticked off. only myself to blame.
Just bought on e bay set of bolts and lock tabs. Just glad it was me and not a customer.
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I keep a book on jobs to do and one was to lock wire the bolts. Just glad it was me and not a customer.
I was going to suggest it as your winter project! And doubt it would happen on a customer’s car because they’re always a priority over your own....

Seems the races have provoked interest from the odd circuit owner and organiser, so could possibly be another opportunity for an Escort get together next year....
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 19:37 (Ref:3852467)   #62
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Well for many years the MG Car Club MGBCV8 Championship was welcomed by many circuits. Why not a mixed Escort grid?
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Old 24 Sep 2018, 19:48 (Ref:3852469)   #63
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I think it would have to be a stand alone event. When the HSCC originally mentioned yesterday’s meeting Mk3 Escorts were also being considered, and I don’t see why they couldn’t be included- if any were prepared to enter.
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I think it would have to be a stand alone event. When the HSCC originally mentioned yesterday’s meeting Mk3 Escorts were also being considered, and I don’t see why they couldn’t be included- if any were prepared to enter.
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I did enjoy my race enormously . I would only race again if there was a grid of Mexico ‘s and genuine Group 1 cars . Have to wait and see but yes it was fantastic to be part of this anaversery for sure .
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Early escorts with proper Kent engines must be thin on the ground now. Survival of 1300gt's is probably up there with Cortina gt's!
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Well for many years the MG Car Club MGBCV8 Championship was welcomed by many circuits. Why not a mixed Escort grid?
There is already the Blue Oval Saloon Series within the CTCRC and several Escorts appear in that. The fact that "only 20" appeared for a 50th Anniversary race perhaps shows that the demand for stand alone Escort races isn't really there in the long term.

Now, stand alone Escort rally classes is another thing. As long as you don't encourage Millington/ Vauxhall/ Duratec / Honda VTEC engined, and sequential gearbox equipped, "Escort" facsimiles to compete!!!
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There is already the Blue Oval Saloon Series within the CTCRC and several Escorts appear in that. The fact that "only 20" appeared for a 50th Anniversary race perhaps shows that the demand for stand alone Escort races isn't really there in the long term.
I think there was maybe some confusion over eligibility regarding the Brands races. The original regs did quote that the event was for ‘cars built to the specification of the period 1968-81’, which would have excluded a lot of cars. Looking at the grid, I’m guessing that there was not enough interest from owners of GpN,1,1B,2&5 cars.

IMO As long as there are clearly defined classes, the more modern iterations could race with the period cars- in maybe a Ford specific race meeting?
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I think there was maybe some confusion over eligibility regarding the Brands races. The original regs did quote that the event was for ‘cars built to the specification of the period 1968-81’, which would have excluded a lot of cars. Looking at the grid, I’m guessing that there was not enough interest from owners of GpN,1,1B,2&5 cars.

IMO As long as there are clearly defined classes, the more modern iterations could race with the period cars- in maybe a Ford specific race meeting?
Do you mean a Ford Sport Day Mike? I remember those, always a great day out!
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I had a mk1 escort. I was thinking about building it for racing but I couldn't find a race series with enough similar cars to race with. So I sold it last year as a rolling shell and bought a dyno instead!
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My reference to the BCV8 championship was more because of the various classes of modification. You have the roadgoing through to fully modified V8s.

In the case of the Mk1 and 2 Escorts there are; Group 1; Group 2; and, Group 5 versions all of which could share a grid. The Blue Oval championship covers all Fords not just Escorts.
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Wise choice. First option would cost you; second option will make money.
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My reference to the BCV8 championship was more because of the various classes of modification. You have the roadgoing through to fully modified V8s.

In the case of the Mk1 and 2 Escorts there are; Group 1; Group 2; and, Group 5 versions all of which could share a grid. The Blue Oval championship covers all Fords not just Escorts.
In addition to the Blue Oval series there are a number of championships in which Escorts of varying specification can compete, CSCC, CTRC, Quaife modified, Northern saloon and sportscars to name but a few and before anyone derides the Millington engined, sequential gearbox variations running in rally specification, all I can say is go watch a stage rally meeting and be impressed.
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.....and before anyone derides the Millington engined, sequential gearbox variations running in rally specification, all I can say is go watch a stage rally meeting and be impressed.
Oh I have seen them numerous times, and they are fantastic bits of kit. I just happen to be old fashioned enough to think that an Escort should have a Crossflow, Pinto or BDA engine in it, and an H pattern gearbox.

Rallying is either "WRC"; "truly historic", (with cars to the proper homologation papers), which is great, or "Libre" where anything seems to go. In the case of the latter, I don't think that rallying will ever move on whilst lightweight "special saloons" dominate.

There is no real rallying equivalent to "classic club racing" age related class structures whether in its "70s Roadsports", CTCRC, or CSCC "Swinging Sixties"/"Future Classics"/ "Modern Classic" type incarnations and that, I think, is a real shame, and a real weakness.

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