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Old 23 Oct 2018, 19:53 (Ref:3858686)   #6016
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How on Earth could it be one-time job...?

Also, with LM now as season finale, everyone will likely sandbag their way through the entire season from September to Free Practice in June in order not to get killed off in the one race that matters, you know instead of only sandbagging in one or two events

Well at least with the first season, if the stupid tech freeze prevents people from developing cars further that is (without EVO kit)
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Old 23 Oct 2018, 20:30 (Ref:3858699)   #6017
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How on Earth could it be one-time job...?

Also, with LM now as season finale, everyone will likely sandbag their way through the entire season from September to Free Practice in June in order not to get killed off in the one race that matters, you know instead of only sandbagging in one or two events

Well at least with the first season, if the stupid tech freeze prevents people from developing cars further that is (without EVO kit)
Yeah, I have to agree there, especially with LM at the end of the season. Seems to be a recipe for sandbagging and a TERRIBLE WEC season every year. It will be constant "tanking for the first pick in the draft" from every team trying to worse last. The reverse of F1 qaulifying, you want to be the last out but to set the worst times and get the most Mario kart speedboosters after.
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Old 23 Oct 2018, 21:43 (Ref:3858721)   #6018
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It does speak of homologation though, and the current ruleset has a clause in it to penalize teams who deliberately give false numbers. So you could sandbag in the tests but then you'd just have constant stop/go penalties in the race.
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Old 23 Oct 2018, 23:41 (Ref:3858746)   #6019
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It does speak of homologation though, and the current ruleset has a clause in it to penalize teams who deliberately give false numbers. So you could sandbag in the tests but then you'd just have constant stop/go penalties in the race.
Sounds like they are using the general idea of bracket racing in drag racing. Set your lap time and you're penalized for breaking your previous best
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Old 23 Oct 2018, 23:48 (Ref:3858747)   #6020
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Right, there's penalties now for misleading on your pace. Combined with that I think the ACO will be there to monitor how the teams go in testing. My guess is they'll have to be privy on that information to see what the cars are capable of. Dyno the cars, have windtunnel and/or cfd info, see testing times etc. That's why it's a performance window. I don't know how or what they'll do but it has to be something of the sort I mentioned in order for it to be fair and for it to work.
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Old 24 Oct 2018, 22:42 (Ref:3858984)   #6021
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Vasselon interview:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/1...gulations.html

No new info besides these figures:

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“But, to give an example, the maximum engine power will be 520 kW. This has to be obtained with a BSFC* of 230 which is easy to achieve so it will not be necessary to spend a lot of money to get an engine capable of providing a reliable 520 kW.

“With aero it is the same, the new regulations set a level of aero efficiency of ‘4’, the current car is at 6.5! Again it is relatively simple to achieve the level that will be mandated in the new regulations with a couple of good guys. Of course, you can have 20 people working on it, but it will not buy you an advantage!
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Old 25 Oct 2018, 10:41 (Ref:3859064)   #6022
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230 g/kWh is around 36% Efficiency, anyone building an engine in a shed can achieve this.

OK, so performance is the same, but what about stint length? Will there be a benefit in running more efficient engine because it uses less fuel?
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Old 25 Oct 2018, 13:13 (Ref:3859087)   #6023
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There's a mathematical formula to easily calculate fuel efficiency, useful to get an indicative value.
Can't recall it now, but right here some time ago me and other users calculated f.e. of f1 and lmp1 engines. If memory helps me porsche and toyota ICE should be over 40%.

Hypercars concept not only throws in trash about 10 years of aero development, is going to throw also finest fuel efficiency technologies as I can see...
Very likely hypercars will get a 90L fuel tank to keep the standard average 45 minutes stint lenght. Good side of the matter is that maybe large NA engines will strike back
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Old 25 Oct 2018, 13:56 (Ref:3859097)   #6024
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That bsfc is a joke. It is even further into the rubbish idea of allowing a NA engines compete against more efficient turbo engines in lmp1 this year.

On the engine thermal efficiency, any engine provider in 2018 should be achieving over 40%. Simple application of direct injection and a good design should generate figures between 40-44%. Pre-chamber tech would then give the next step change in efficiency and allow better and improved combustion with the lambda figures in excess of 1.15/1.2
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The formula is simple and posted on Wikipedia, the unknown is the type of fuel used (energy density), that is why I used word "around" 36% efficiency.
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The formula is simple and posted on Wikipedia, the unknown is the type of fuel used (energy density), that is why I used word "around" 36% efficiency.
They use shell iirc. It's not as good as those used in F1 in terms of energy density.
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Old 5 Nov 2018, 15:10 (Ref:3861136)   #6027
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Interesting reflections by Stefan Johansson:
"The 'Hypercars' will look like GT cars with bodywork, so why not use the current GTE / GTLM? Remove the existing restrictions in the BOP Let each constructor build the best car possible, which is exactly what will happen to the 'hypercar' category. Let's say that the legislator requires each manufacturer to approve a GT for this category with unrestricted engines.Most of the road cars of the current constructors develop approximately 800 horses.It would be relatively easy to get 800 horses to start with, give them 10% more aerodynamic support, wider tires and wider wheel arches, the cars will be significantly more aggressive and more spicy, the lap times will be less than 3.30 min and will end at 3.20 min.

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Old 5 Nov 2018, 15:21 (Ref:3861142)   #6028
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That's a big ignorant by Johansson there. These cars are not going to actually be GT cars but prototypes with silhouette bodies. Why do so many people get that consistently wrong?
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It says "look like" not "be"
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It says "look like" not "be"
Yes, and then he suggests homologating existing GT cars.
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