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3 Dec 2006, 04:00 (Ref:1780639)
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Drivers vs Manufacturers vs Teams ??
I do think this has being talked about before, but do you think is the most important tiltle to win.
The DRIVER'S TITLE or The MANUFACTOR'S TITLE. Just thought it would be worth a disscusion. 
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3 Dec 2006, 04:07 (Ref:1780641)
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The drivers title's always more important. Especially in the V8's when VESA has more say on how the cars run than either Holden or Ford it would seem. Also, theres 31 drivers, 2 manufacturers. Obviously alot more competition for the drivers title.
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3 Dec 2006, 05:35 (Ref:1780645)
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I would also put the teams championship above the manufactures title.
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3 Dec 2006, 05:52 (Ref:1780649)
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With only two manufacturers i fail to see how a manufacturers championship is necessary.
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3 Dec 2006, 06:31 (Ref:1780656)
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3 Dec 2006, 06:36 (Ref:1780657)
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Drivers. This is the only one people remember the winner of in years to come. Even in F1 people only really seem to remember the drivers champion, not the constructors champion.
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3 Dec 2006, 06:37 (Ref:1780658)
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Teams Championship shows who has the best cars. Manufacturer shows us which marque has an "unfair advantage". Drivers championship is the only thing that matters.
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3 Dec 2006, 06:42 (Ref:1780662)
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3 Dec 2006, 11:42 (Ref:1780884)
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Bathurst, head and shoulders above everything else, beyond that I support Ford first and foremost, so manufacturers for me
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3 Dec 2006, 12:06 (Ref:1780898)
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Bathurst 1000 winner is more important than any of the above.
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3 Dec 2006, 12:10 (Ref:1780900)
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I doubt that. It is only one race. |
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3 Dec 2006, 12:11 (Ref:1780902)
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Consistently finishing for me......
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3 Dec 2006, 12:33 (Ref:1780914)
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3 Dec 2006, 12:36 (Ref:1780918)
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Next year will be great. But how could anyone value something more than the drivers title. Teams, who cares. Bathurst? Its great, but its only a race. |
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4 Dec 2006, 00:48 (Ref:1781261)
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The "manufacturers" title is a load of ********. What other championship in the world decides a manufacturer champion based on number of round wins? It should be points. I have seen someone claim before that it would be messed up by the odd number of Fords vs Holdens but that is a load of ******** too - the round wins total is no less influenced by the number of Holdens vs Fords than the points total. (Yes, I'd say that no matter who won the manufacturers title.) |
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4 Dec 2006, 00:53 (Ref:1781262)
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My point is do we need a Manufacturers title at all.
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4 Dec 2006, 01:25 (Ref:1781266)
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BTW, I wasn't swearing my head off there, the censor asterisked out "********" - not a swear word in Australia.
[mod]yes it is, but it's an acceptable one. It's also one of my favourites, but it still gets censored, and writing it in another way is against the rules, so I've changed it back, sorry.[/mod] Last edited by Woolley; 4 Dec 2006 at 23:49. |
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Phil Mills: 30, 6-Left-Plus Over-Crest-Long, Opens-Over-Crest 100, COW-COW, 100, 6-Left-Minus Extra-Long Fabrizio Giovanardi: I have like a banana - is the yellow car in front - that make me, you know, running like the monkey, running for the banana. When I see yellow in front, I just pushing harder and harder. I want that banana.
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4 Dec 2006, 03:58 (Ref:1781284)
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The ONE race that makes the front page of the national daily papers. The ONE race that made Dick Johnson a folkhero. The ONE race that people know who won in 1977. The ONE race that attracts ten hours of live TV coverage. The ONE race that even non-motorsport fans want to see the start of. The ONE race that can attract $24million in Government investment. The ONE race that could bring tears to Craig Lowndes. The ONE race that gave birth to AVESCO and V8 Supercar. As Alan Moffat once said "There is only Bathurst. Everything else is just waiting..." |
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4 Dec 2006, 05:08 (Ref:1781301)
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4 Dec 2006, 11:08 (Ref:1781546)
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i think Bathurst is definatly equal to the driver's title so them 2 are the top one's to have.
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4 Dec 2006, 11:21 (Ref:1781567)
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[QUOTE=Average Punter
As Alan Moffat once said "There is only Bathurst. Everything else is just waiting..."[/QUOTE] Might have been the case once, i don't think it applies as much now. Maybe you should ask the drivers, and i think i know what their answer would be. |
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4 Dec 2006, 11:25 (Ref:1781574)
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what would it be pete????
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4 Dec 2006, 11:43 (Ref:1781583)
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The championship is the most important now, for drivers that is.
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4 Dec 2006, 11:58 (Ref:1781595)
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Sorry pete, but I think you might have been unwittingly sucked into the Cochrane Spin Machine Vortex...
It is Cochrane who WANTS the Championship to be the most meaningful. (remember the famous "no sacred sites" speech at Sandown in 1996?) For mine, I'd bet a Bathurst win on the CV would mean more than a soon-to-be-forgotten Championship. |
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4 Dec 2006, 12:00 (Ref:1781598)
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Bathurst is probably more important on a whole to the fanbase than it is to the drivers. Im sure Lowndes wont go into Philip Island thinking "well ive got Bathurst, so who cares what happens here".
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