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Old 6 Dec 2010, 09:23 (Ref:2800249)   #31
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I think Vettel will slaughter him tbh. I know that seems to be the general consensus, but I really do.

It'll be Mark's last season, and he'll try and go out with a bang... But I think that bang will be one-too many accidents through trying too hard.

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Old 6 Dec 2010, 10:57 (Ref:2800284)   #32
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Well, I think it's too early to make predicitons. Mark had the advantage most of the last season, you just can't discard that because Vettel won the WDC.
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Old 6 Dec 2010, 12:12 (Ref:2800305)   #33
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Oh i'm not - I'm talking confidence here.

I think Vettel will be well and truly buoyed by this championship win, especially as he was an outsider.

Afterall, this is predictions

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Old 7 Dec 2010, 20:05 (Ref:2801065)   #34
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Mark had the advantage most of the last season, you just can't discard that because Vettel won the WDC.
Mark had the stronger mid season, but Seb did the business from Italy onwards, which was when he needed to be stronger, exactly as it was last season. Mark doesn't seem to be able to keep the momentum going for a whole season, whereas Seb pulls it out when required.

Going into the last race, Seb had outqualified Mark 12-6 and outraced him 10-7 (Korea they both retired) 13-6 and 11-7 after the last race. That tells me all i need to know who have the overall advantage.

Maybe your right, maybe it is too early to make predictions, but i don't think so
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Old 8 Dec 2010, 00:48 (Ref:2801160)   #35
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As nice as it would be to see Webber get a title, he doesn't have a hope in hells chance.
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Old 8 Dec 2010, 01:05 (Ref:2801166)   #36
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Well, I am going to stick with the same thinking I had a few years ago when these two teamed up. Mark may not be as talented or as quick as Seb, but the difference is small. Small enough that if Webber works harder and smart then he can be in with a chance of beating Vettel.

I think Webber likes "trying" to prove others wrong and ultimately he enjoys challenging himself. He doesnt run from challenges, he tries to rise to them....so he will be back and hopefully hungrier then ever.....and i expect next year we will continue to see Webber in the hunt.
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Old 8 Dec 2010, 11:09 (Ref:2801316)   #37
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That would be a good season.
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As nice as it would be to see Webber get a title, he doesn't have a hope in hells chance.
well if he didnt before, he sure has hell wont now thanks to FIA lifting ban on team orders.

This is going to be a Red bull manufactured one-sided contest
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Mark had the stronger mid season, but Seb did the business from Italy onwards, which was when he needed to be stronger, exactly as it was last season. Mark doesn't seem to be able to keep the momentum going for a whole season, whereas Seb pulls it out when required.

Going into the last race, Seb had outqualified Mark 12-6 and outraced him 10-7 (Korea they both retired) 13-6 and 11-7 after the last race. That tells me all i need to know who have the overall advantage.

Maybe your right, maybe it is too early to make predictions, but i don't think so
His car has been slower since silverstone - if anyone doesnt think that wasnt 'organised' is either stupid or niave.....I will be nice and say the latter.
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His car has been slower since silverstone - if anyone doesnt think that wasnt 'organised' is either stupid or niave.....I will be nice and say the latter.
I guess that if you can't use team orders then you have to do something else.

I also guess that we can never be sure that cars in one team are ever exactly the same specification as each other. Some drivers will choose to go their own way anyway, as Button did at Monza. I'm sure that Webber had options too. I'm also sure that a new part that is said to and does make the car quicker will not necessarily do that for both drivers.
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I guess that if you can't use team orders then you have to do something else.

I also guess that we can never be sure that cars in one team are ever exactly the same specification as each other. Some drivers will choose to go their own way anyway, as Button did at Monza. I'm sure that Webber had options too. I'm also sure that a new part that is said to and does make the car quicker will not necessarily do that for both drivers.
I know in my own gut that the cars were not equal since Silverstone....hell they even changed the software when they were winning both championships easy, why on earth would you........problem is if I was born in another country people would either agree with me or not dismiss it so easlly even if they dont. The truth will always come out in the end.

Like I said in another forum - Red Bull dont have to do it behind everyones back whilest trying to tell us that is wasnt happening.

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I know in my own gut that the cars were not equal since Silverstone....hell they even changed the software when they were winning both championships easy, why on earth would you........problem is if I was born in another country people would either agree with me or not dismiss it so easlly even if they dont. The truth will always come out in the end.

Like I said in another forum - Red Bull dont have to do it behind everyones back whilest trying to tell us that is wasnt happening.
They also organised for Webber to crash out at Korea too and arranged for Mark's friend to crash his bike in front of Webber i suppose.
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They also organised for Webber to crash out at Korea too and arranged for Mark's friend to crash his bike in front of Webber i suppose.
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They also organised for Webber to crash out at Korea too and arranged for Mark's friend to crash his bike in front of Webber i suppose.
Listen smart alec - IF Red Bull had of given Mark the backing other teams would of he would of had the championship sown up long before Korea and it wouldnt of been an issue

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