Spa 6 Hour Race - Page 2

Simon Adams · 2 Jun 2006, 08:20 (Ref:1625215)

The last two Spa 6 hour races have seen the Germans take big grid slots. This is a purely commercial decision taken by Alain de Faille. In addition, last year saw a number of traditional front runner pull out of the race at the last minute. In fact, a number had booked ferries with us then cancelled. The reason, they had been promised all would run on Dunlops and then with one week to go, found out that the Germans were on Yoki tyres. So despite all the promises, none were, in the end honoured. I was always led to believe that this was an FIA sanctioned event but when one looks at the entry list, and then sees what happens on the track, especially last year, one begins to wonder.

At the end of the day, this race is a commercial exercise and it appears that filling the grid is the most important thing. It becomes a vicious circle though - keep bringing in the German type group and you'll have less and less "proper" cars coming.

As an add on Simon, take a look at my Snetterton thread - you might be interested.

esper · 2 Jun 2006, 10:49 (Ref:1625332)

Last year the six hours was not far away from having "fatal casualties" I think the organisers are perfectly aware of that. I will inscript on the regs such as they are now, If they change it one week before I will pull out, simple is that!

simon drabble · 2 Jun 2006, 10:59 (Ref:1625341)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFW

Simon,

have you seen the other races that accept sports racers....

you could almost race 6 hours [3 times]

if your car is upto it.

J

I am thinking about taking the Merlyn as well, what have we got? Cloth Cap, WSM (2 races) HSCC anything else?
Presume you are taking yours?

simon drabble · 2 Jun 2006, 11:04 (Ref:1625345)

I would still enter as I am in the Lotus Cortina this year as opposed to a sports racer - but if I felt in any way threatened by German driving standards I would not hesitate in coming in (and handing over to the next driver!!)
Its a great shame that the race was overshadowed by some idiotic driving and certainly allowing Yoki shod cars seems to be allowing in a certain type of driver rather than teh tyres themselves causing the problems
Simon saw you thread about Snett - I will reply there!

JFW · 2 Jun 2006, 11:36 (Ref:1625375)

I probably wont take both my 6 and my cortina, Ill wing it and see which is 'feeling good' just before I decide to go. Default will probably be the Mk6.

I have just gathered together the pricing wsm 500 th 425 hscc 375

I know who is getting my money.

J

simon drabble · 2 Jun 2006, 12:24 (Ref:1625399)

this is a common theme with WSM...... not like the days when Carol ran it, Julius you can argue doesnt charge a membership fee so can justify being more expensive than HSCC

JFW · 2 Jun 2006, 12:27 (Ref:1625402)

Are you not a paid up HSCC member then Simon

simon drabble · 2 Jun 2006, 13:40 (Ref:1625467)

yes I am and that is my point - if you add in the cost of membership of HSCC to the HSCC race (obviously the more HSCC races you amortize the cost over in a year the less marginal it becomes) and compare to Julius' Cloth Cap race it is not always the cheapest race. Given WSM charge a membership as well that clearly comes out most expensive but they will justify it by pointing out that they offer hospitality (in the old days Gregor and Carol threw that in for free!!)

JFW · 2 Jun 2006, 13:43 (Ref:1625470)

Didnt Fancy 500 Quid For A Year Of Rons Sarnies Then ?

simon drabble · 2 Jun 2006, 16:08 (Ref:1625547)

curiously it didn't grab me as a big priority!! To be fair to Chris and Rachel this year getting the Lotus Cortina sorted has been a higher priority

**Peter Mallett** · 20 Jun 2006, 14:46 (Ref:1637776)

Can we change the title to Spa 6hrs Meeting please? It'll save another thread.

Just been checking my schedule and it seems the Spa event is on the cards. Soooo, anybody going for the support races?

Chris Griffin · 20 Jun 2006, 19:16 (Ref:1637954)

Peter, is Barry SS running his 1 hour sports and saloons again this year?

**Peter Mallett** · 21 Jun 2006, 06:39 (Ref:1638194)

I'm told its listed but will try to confirm this weekend.

simon drabble · 21 Jun 2006, 06:54 (Ref:1638196)

yes it is - altho no FIA rounds
its
RAC pre 55
U2TC
6 Hour
Grand Prix Masters
Sports Car Masters
Sports Racers
Gentlemen Drivers
Top Hat
HSCC (2 x 30 mins)
and Barry's race
I cant recall if there was a 30's race like last yr or not

zefarelly · 21 Jun 2006, 08:13 (Ref:1638239)

I'm doing Top Hat, as has been said before, no membership fees, theres always hospitality, which is getting better, and they're a good crowd to race with.

Theres a slim chance I'd do U2Tc as well, but unlikely.

Peter . . .Top Hat for you ?

simon drabble · 21 Jun 2006, 08:24 (Ref:1638249)

to be fair to Carol Spagg - U2TC also has no fees and the advantage that all cars are FIA papered and under 2 litres (good for us in twinkies and the Alfisti) although BMW have been a surprise in terms of pace I gather.
I will sadly miss her race as the L-C is doing the 6 Hour but will use the Merlyn for the Top HAt/Cloth Cap and WSM and SRS and HSCC races so a busy weekend to make up for the lack of racing upto now this year!!

JFW · 21 Jun 2006, 08:25 (Ref:1638250)

I'm pitching for HSCC and Might take my sports car as a backup. I think £ 50 for some sarnies is dear

J

JFW · 21 Jun 2006, 08:31 (Ref:1638255)

Mind you with the kind of resources Drabble has to throw at racing [4 races and the 6 hours] I feel like low budget trailer trash...........

J

**Peter Mallett** · 21 Jun 2006, 08:35 (Ref:1638258)

Looks like Top Hat for me too. Although with Barry's race there I'll check the timing.

James Murray · 21 Jun 2006, 09:08 (Ref:1638282)

Is there a tyre issue here with all these diferent races for tin tops. Reading through this post it looks like you will need to take 3 different sets to be competitive in the various events, one set with dunlops, one set with avons and one set with yoki's.

Not much on offer for the single seater guys this year at this meeting. The July event looks good though.

simon drabble · 21 Jun 2006, 11:16 (Ref:1638342)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFW

Mind you with the kind of resources Drabble has to throw at racing [4 races and the 6 hours] I feel like low budget trailer trash...........

J

just means that my credit card gets smoked in one session rather than gradually over the season!!!
Of course some of us arent using our Merlyn's the week before........ ;-)

zefarelly · 21 Jun 2006, 13:10 (Ref:1638395)

mines still smoking from Last year !

as for tyres Dunlops only for me, I need to sort the suspension out a bit better as fronts are being shredded in a few hours whilst rears last all year !

less ARB on the front will give a little more over steer and help that I think

simon drabble · 21 Jun 2006, 13:12 (Ref:1638396)

surely its Dunlops for everyone isnt it?

**Peter Mallett** · 22 Jun 2006, 18:36 (Ref:1639288)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefarelly

mines still smoking from Last year !

as for tyres Dunlops only for me, I need to sort the suspension out a bit better as fronts are being shredded in a few hours whilst rears last all year !

less ARB on the front will give a little more over steer and help that I think

Castor? Or am I talking "pollox"?

zefarelly · 26 Jun 2006, 09:26 (Ref:1641429)

got some Peter, but to get more means cheating . . . ie machine the ARB to pull the struts forward . . .then redrill the leaf springs and move the axle forward to keep the wheelbase within homologated dimensions.

or just turn it into a LWB Cortina and cut the front wings to clear like some other cars out there !

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