uk f1 tv coverage - sky, bbc and ch4

[john ruston]

Presumably the first aim of Skys F1 is to maximise the British market so you expect a British bias.
This applies all sports coverage in all countries
Try watching sport in US .
They do what majority of their specific market wants and that includes Ted K
Long May it continue!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by john ruston

Presumably the first aim of Skys F1 is to maximise the British market so you expect a British bias.
This applies all sports coverage in all countries

Agreed - and it amazes me how much we expect people to ignore what they already know and remove bias.

Is it any surprise that those associated with Red Bull previously will refer to them in their commentary (Coulthard / Webber)?
Former Mercedes drivers will refer to them (Rosberg). Brits will naturally feel an associations and affinity to British entrants.

If I was to get an Australian feed in the UK, I'm pretty certain the same accusations of bias would be heard.

[john ruston]

Now the Red Bull bias on Channel4 is at another level!
Helps basing their coverage from Red Bull HQ occasionally.
Suppose it helps when you consider how long Coultard and Co were on payroll and probably still are!

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by john ruston

Presumably the first aim of Skys F1 is to maximise the British market so you expect a British bias.
This applies all sports coverage in all countries
Try watching sport in US .
They do what majority of their specific market wants and that includes Ted K

Simples.

I also suspect that most people mainly find it nauseating when they say Hamilton is good (they do and he is), but not so nauseating when they say Ricciardo is good (they do, but less so because he is not winning as much and he’s not quite as good).

My favorite drivers aren’t British and it doesn’t wind me up.

Long May it continue!

I’m pleased the US takes the sky feed, although one day it would be nice to think it reaches a critical mass that it gets its own team.

F1TV allows you to chose a different commentary. I’m afraid they do have British people on the alternative too. And they have been known to suggest that Hamilton is good as he often wins the race on that feed too.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Adam43

F1TV allows you to chose a different commentary. I’m afraid they do have British people on the alternative too. And they have been known to suggest that Hamilton is good as he often wins the race on that feed too.

The problem with UK F1 TV coverage (the title of the thread remember) is that a British driver has done well and the UK TV coverage has mentioned it!

Bring back the days when the UK has a limited participation in the sport, and then the rest of the world can be happy.

ps - Sky Italia's coverage is something else when you want to hear extremes of commentary based on national success. There are times when Ferrari have been out of the race that I thought the commentators had left for the day. Other days, it's like they've just lapped the entire field on lap 5!

[chillibowl]

oddly enough, i was complaining about how little they showed of Lewis particularly nearer to the end of the race which featured more Bottas (inexplicably to me). and earlier they spent most of their time focused on the Mclarens and Ferraris.

they tend to focus on the action/midfield a lot more then they used to back in the day imo.

even pre and post race they focus on the drivers who offer them the most time and access and that is rarely Ham these days and their features focus mainly on the young drivers to my recollection.

a few years ago every feature seemed to be with DanR and Sainz and now its Ric and Lando. they go where the fun is.

also i thought the addition of Danica Patrick for their US coverage was a smart choice so perhaps they will try to add a local motorsports personality for other places the circus visits.

anyways, perception is a unique thing with each of us picking up on things unique to our own situations.

[Derwent]

The briefer coverage with Lee and Billy was good. I hate all the woffle! Bike racing seems must more to the point. - Race, interview the winner, next race etc. I would like to see Lee take over from Steve Jones. He grates and it's not just because he is Welsh!

[S griffin]

I like Steve Jones, he's come a long way, considering he was a virgin in F1 terms when he started. Certainly he gels well with DC and Webber and also is quite at interviewing various people in the F1 paddock. Although his catchphrase seems to be 'alright, let's go for a break'.

[steve_r]

Originally Posted by Derwent

The briefer coverage with Lee and Billy was good. I hate all the woffle! Bike racing seems must more to the point. - Race, interview the winner, next race etc. I would like to see Lee take over from Steve Jones. He grates and it's not just because he is Welsh!

I agree with you that I prefer it this way. I assume that normal serice wil be resumed with interviews and filler sections etc when the c4 hilights are not being shown at such a late hour.

However, my Mum enjoys F1, but does not catch up on any news in the week via the internet, so she actually enjoys all the waffley bits that I usually fast-forward, as she does not already know the gossip and driver / team news etc.

[2 litre Touring Car Star]

Originally Posted by steve_r

I agree with you that I prefer it this way. I assume that normal serice wil be resumed with interviews and filler sections etc when the c4 hilights are not being shown at such a late hour.

However, my Mum enjoys F1, but does not catch up on any news in the week via the internet, so she actually enjoys all the waffley bits that I usually fast-forward, as she does not already know the gossip and driver / team news etc.

That's actually a fair justification.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

There is a mixture, BJ. All the filming and the direction with the broadcasting rights are all the property of FOM with the exception of Monaco who for some reason are allowed to provide the filming and direction. The cameras and associated equipment are again the property of FOM with, again, the exception possibly of Monaco.

During the GPs, individual broadcasters such as SKY, etc. are permitted very limited access at certain times to the pits, paddock and grid and are permitted to use their own cameras and associated equipment for those purposes alongside their use in their commentary boxes/studios that they might have on site.

The commentary and filming as above is slotted in to the feed provided by the FOM filming crew who are responsible for providing all other coverage.

Hopefully I haven't confused you.

No, not at all. Thanks for the explanation and to crmalcolm as well, https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...postcount=2425

That's more or less how I thought F1 broadcasting worked, though I didn't know about Monaco.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

No, not at all. Thanks for the explanation and to crmalcolm as well, https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...postcount=2425

That's more or less how I thought F1 broadcasting worked, though I didn't know about Monaco.

You're more than welcome, BJ.

As for Monaco, it was thought for some time that Monaco didn't pay a sanctioning fee, but it recently transpired that they have been paying in recent times, in their words, a modest fee. It would seem that in return they were allowed to produce the coverage for their own GP - a sort of quid pro quo, if you like.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

You're more than welcome, BJ.

As for Monaco, it was thought for some time that Monaco didn't pay a sanctioning fee, but it recently transpired that they have been paying in recent times, in their words, a modest fee. It would seem that in return they were allowed to produce the coverage for their own GP - a sort of millions of quids pro quo, if you like.

Fixed that for you.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Fixed that for you.

Most kind of you, Peter.

[chunterer]

Good grief, the sky coverage went way overboard on brit and eco awareness angles today.

[billy bleach]

David Croft - STOP BLOODY SHOUTING!!!! Also, stop laughing at you own “humour”. ….

[Greem]

I DO NOT HAVE SKY Q OR SKY GLASS

and I never want to hear of them again.

Also: the TV direction was crap this weekend. Far too much time spent on replays, on a short track.

[Skam85]

Croft is getting worse and worse.

[Tourer]

Need like buttons for those last 3 posts - understand jingoistic commentary, comes with the territory but all the shouting, shrieking and giggling gets FAR too much!

[GT6]

Not happy with C4 yesterday, as i do not have the F1 sky package i avoided the bbc and anything that could give away the result before the highlights program but C4 news gave the result without warning shortly before the free highlights show, ruddy annoying.

[Anyopenroad]

I listened on BBC Radio and found it quite annoying. They are obsessed with “controversy” and “rivalry” to the point of referring to the two drivers “hating” each other. They read out Tweets and messages as if simmering tension and argument is the point of the whole thing. At one point they spent several laps debating which of Ver or Ham would most benefit from deliberately crashing them both out. Jolyon Palmer sounded quite embarrassed on several occasions, as well having to correct basic mistakes from hyperventilating commentators.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

I listened on BBC Radio and found it quite annoying. They are obsessed with “controversy” and “rivalry” to the point of referring to the two drivers “hating” each other. They read out Tweets and messages as if simmering tension and argument is the point of the whole thing. At one point they spent several laps debating which of Ver or Ham would most benefit from deliberately crashing them both out. Jolyon Palmer sounded quite embarrassed on several occasions, as well having to correct basic mistakes from hyperventilating commentators.

BBC coverage childish? Surely not! Honestly I hope licence payers money isn't paying for the Radio 5 GP rabble They sound like a bunch of excitable 15 year olds

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Greem

I DO NOT HAVE SKY Q OR SKY GLASS

and I never want to hear of them again.

Also: the TV direction was crap this weekend. Far too much time spent on replays, on a short track.

Agree on both points. I was tired to the promo for capabilities I don't have (US viewers get the Sky feed). And I was amazed at the times they cut away from the action to show crowd reaction. I get the crowd might be enjoying the race they are watching. I also would like the watch the race, so please show it to me.

Richard

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

BBC coverage childish? Surely not! Honestly I hope licence payers money isn't paying for the Radio 5 GP rabble They sound like a bunch of excitable 15 year olds

That's a fair description. I don't have a Sky subscription so I have no alternative if I want live commentary; after a while you can filter out the chaff.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Agree on both points. I was tired to the promo for capabilities I don't have (US viewers get the Sky feed).

In America we should be told what is on 60 minutes later!