Audi: In? Out? Shake it all about? - Page 2

minimangler · 28 Mar 2007, 21:27 (Ref:1878722)

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Originally Posted by thebear

They are IN .

is it that good a thing?

HORNDAWG · 28 Mar 2007, 21:39 (Ref:1878733)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

is it that good a thing?

Contrary to the belief of some. What pray tell would be good about, losing a marque, arguably the best team in Motor Sports, the dominant team for nearly a decade and the reigning World Champion of Sports Car Racing??

L.P.

minimangler · 28 Mar 2007, 21:53 (Ref:1878741)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Contrary to the belief of some. What pray tell would be good about, losing a marque, arguably the best team in Motor Sports, the dominant team for nearly a decade and the reigning World Champion of Sports Car Racing??

L.P.

hang on here, i didn't say it was good or bad
positives of them going away; competition might get better below them, more chances of winning, less domination
negatives, well publicity, and missing out maybe in the long run of audi V peugeot.

up to dr ulrich really...

HORNDAWG · 28 Mar 2007, 22:04 (Ref:1878750)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

hang on here, i didn't say it was good or bad
positives of them going away; competition might get better below them, more chances of winning, less domination
negatives, well publicity, and missing out maybe in the long run of audi V peugeot.

up to dr ulrich really...

Did I say you did?

L.P.

JAG · 28 Mar 2007, 22:12 (Ref:1878756)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

Back door to overall wins? Ok, so the Penske cars topped a heavy underpowered R8 at Mid-Ohio. The R10 was and is undefeated. There really aren't many chances for P2 overall wins apart from a few tight street circuits and Laguna (maybe).

Not likely against a factory team, but why take the risk?

jhansen · 28 Mar 2007, 23:25 (Ref:1878805)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Not likely against a factory team, but why take the risk?

How close was a P2 car to an overall win in the LMS last year??? There were no factories there to fight against...

bil588 · 28 Mar 2007, 23:32 (Ref:1878809)

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Originally Posted by chewymonster

Calling out all Corvette fans. How would you like that ALMS take the 5% restrictors from the GT2s. How about some more benefits for the GT2s. IMO there is absolutely no competiton in GT1 right now. I am thinking that we should make those GT2s several seconds faster so we can some real competition. At least in P1 there is someone else racing. How would like that? Right now no one knows why the entry list isn't out yet (except a handful of people directly envolved in the process)

or one could tell chevy and p&m to enter gt2

JAG · 28 Mar 2007, 23:34 (Ref:1878810)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

How close was a P2 car to an overall win in the LMS last year??? There were no factories there to fight against...

Top 5, but they weren't full factory P2's with constant development.

bil588 · 28 Mar 2007, 23:35 (Ref:1878811)

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Originally Posted by vejgaard

I know .... there are two set of rules in LMP1 ...... Audi and the others

The problem is that Audi's main goal this year is to beat Pug at LM, and then i think you will see pure private- Audi teams from 2008.

Audi has to deliver the best car for the comming cotumers, and for that they have to race i an serie which all the cars are racing within the same rules.

Im ALMS there are special rules for Audi ... they ar going for the ACO 207 rules, but the other are going for the ACO 2007 with the IMSA changes

I think that we will see Audi perhaps going for Petit in ALMS and perhaps nothing else after LM. They just have to sell the R10's to there costumers.

Once again look at the Le Mans series. There are som many cars in all categories. But in ALMS you have Corvette in GT1 Audi in LMP1. LMP2 & GT2 are still good class'es

Oreca has said they would only consider racing an LMP late 2008 and or 2009 season.

What customer is going to find the $$$$ to buy an R10? and then there are the running costs...

JAG · 28 Mar 2007, 23:42 (Ref:1878814)

Customers like the one who bought two new Lola P1's, then ditched them for two new Porsche P2's?

bil588 · 28 Mar 2007, 23:42 (Ref:1878815)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

How close was a P2 car to an overall win in the LMS last year??? There were no factories there to fight against...

the ASM lola was four laps down and second overall at jarama to pescarolo

jhansen · 29 Mar 2007, 00:18 (Ref:1878828)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Top 5, but they weren't full factory P2's with constant development.

Exactly. In the ALMS, it has been Audi vs. Penske/Porsche, and the gap between P1 and P2 is clear. In the LMS, it was privateer vs. privateer, and the gap between P1 and P2 is clear.

minimangler · 29 Mar 2007, 13:25 (Ref:1879191)

at istanbul i seem to remember they were close, but only becasue of conditions. the gaps are just growing.

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