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Old 27 May 2019, 12:58 (Ref:3906319)   #976
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1.58.6 is a good lap time

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The final runner was the Ginetta G60 AER LMP1 car, following up its recent test at Motorland Aragon with a further test doubling up between performance and development and sales pitch.

Ginetta Chairman Lawrence Tomlinson was present with factory driver Charlie Robertson driving, joined again by James Jakes, Anders Fjordbach and LMP1 debutant Andrea Pizzitola.

The team was supported once again by Technical Director Pete Smith and race engineer Allan Mugglestone.

The Ginetta ran on both days with Robertson scoring its fastest lap on Day 2, a 1:58.6, all drivers observing that there is much, much more to come!
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Old 27 May 2019, 22:41 (Ref:3906411)   #977
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Old 28 May 2019, 15:28 (Ref:3906543)   #978
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If that wasn't a qualifying run it's a very good time. Anything sub-2:00 in race pace is good especially for a new-ish car.
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Old 28 May 2019, 15:38 (Ref:3906545)   #979
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If it was a glory run, that’s not going to help them. If it wasn’t, then the signs are good. No point trying to reenter the championship if they are just going to be left behind again
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Old 14 Jun 2019, 08:16 (Ref:3910020)   #980
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Old 14 Jun 2019, 08:40 (Ref:3910032)   #981
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Can’t wait to see it race, it looks the business
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Old 14 Jun 2019, 10:01 (Ref:3910056)   #982
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Looks fantastic.

What is everyones expectation on the P1 actually showing up for 19/20?

Also curious if Ginetta will see the new Hypercar ruleset as an opportunity to reset their top their top tier LM racing ambitions
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Old 14 Jun 2019, 13:48 (Ref:3910139)   #983
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The new LMP3 looks years ahead of the old one. Congrats.
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Looks fantastic.

What is everyones expectation on the P1 actually showing up for 19/20?

Also curious if Ginetta will see the new Hypercar ruleset as an opportunity to reset their top their top tier LM racing ambitions
I'm sure it'll be there, but there are no excuses now. They have blamed everybody there is to blame, and now it's basically a factory car. If it isn't up to speed then the blame lies at Ginettas door.
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Old 14 Jun 2019, 14:11 (Ref:3910156)   #985
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I'm sure it'll be there, but there are no excuses now. They have blamed everybody there is to blame, and now it's basically a factory car. If it isn't up to speed then the blame lies at Ginettas door.
I agree with this sentiment. But after seeing how fast the SMP and Rebellion have been at Le Mans, I still expect Ginetta to be behind the curve next year. Maybe filling in the byKolles niche?
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Having thé same engine with thé BR1 will show us immediatly how good the car is. What is more worrying for me is the fact that they have lost a year versus SMP Racing and Rebellon. But I expect them quicker than Kolles !


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I'm sure it'll be there, but there are no excuses now. They have blamed everybody there is to blame, and now it's basically a factory car. If it isn't up to speed then the blame lies at Ginettas door.
If by that you mean that they have blamed the previous team/sponsor for not paying for the cars, and blamed the original engine builder for supplying an engine that was well over 100 hp down on the promised spec then yes you are right!
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If by that you mean that they have blamed the previous team/sponsor for not paying for the cars, and blamed the original engine builder for supplying an engine that was well over 100 hp down on the promised spec then yes you are right!
They also turned up at Le Mans without the correct aerokit, after saying they were aiming for sub 3:20 laps, and that during testing they were within a second of Toyota. Ginetta are not innocent in this cars current state.

It is a customer car that was not ready to be sold to customers.

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Apparently Dragonspeed were trying to get permission to run a Ginetta instead of their BR1. That would have been interesting.

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Apparently Dragonspeed were trying to get permission to run a Ginetta instead of their BR1. That would have been interesting.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2019/0...-24-hours.html
Maybe, but I fail to see who had anything to gain actually.

* The BR1 is not a bad car, otherwise SMP would not have had the results either
* Dragonspeed seems to be unable to get the car sorted. Does that tell us something about the car, or something about the team itself?

Now let them change the BR1 to a car they have 0 experience with, and that hasn't been raced for a year.
I'll agree that the Ginetta has been developed and upgraded and all, but I don't think it is at BR1 level yet, certainly not in the hands of a team that has no experience with it.

Let's say they achieve the same results as with their BR1, then what would be the conclusion?
* the Ginetta is still no good ?
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* the Ginetta is still not reliable (enough) ?
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* Dragonspeed is not the right team to run such a car ?
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I don't think Dragonspeed would have gained anything in this scenario and I'm not sure it would have done Ginetta a lot of good either, by putting in a race rather unprepared.

Let them prepare for 2019-2020 and we'll see at the races what the car is worth.
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