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Old 11 Jun 2019, 15:28 (Ref:3909383)   #316
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Yes it doesn't really mean anything but perhaps they'd give company to Michelin in LMP1 again
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Old 11 Jun 2019, 16:29 (Ref:3909400)   #317
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Yes it doesn't really mean anything but perhaps they'd give company to Michelin in LMP1 again
Yes, I was thinking why the teams didn't change to Dunlop this season instead to be forced to use tyres developed for the hybrid cars.

If the new Michelin for P1-L is not allowed to be used, teams could use Dunlop-Goodyear next season. I really donīt know why Michelin or ACO didn't allow teams to use the new front tyre they have been testing.
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Old 11 Jun 2019, 16:40 (Ref:3909402)   #318
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It was put to the teams, and one team--likely Dragonspeed, who won't even be in LMP1 next season--vetoed it.

Just like F1, the FIA have brought in too much democracy. The ACO, FIA, and even Toyota voted in favor of the privateer spec tires.
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Old 11 Jun 2019, 17:41 (Ref:3909412)   #319
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It was put to the teams, and one team--likely Dragonspeed, who won't even be in LMP1 next season--vetoed it.

Just like F1, the FIA have brought in too much democracy. The ACO, FIA, and even Toyota voted in favor of the privateer spec tires.
I asked this before but got no answer.

Why could Dragonspeed veto the tyres at all? Isn't every team free to use the tyres they want?
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Old 11 Jun 2019, 18:21 (Ref:3909417)   #320
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I asked this before but got no answer.

Why could Dragonspeed veto the tyres at all? Isn't every team free to use the tyres they want?
Because there is a rule regarding tires and it's not a free run what you want class, believe it's like LMP2 and the tire is nominated preseason. The rules apparently state a change must be approved by competitors and one team, most reported Dragonspeed right away, vetoed the measure. Why write that rule at all is a bigger question but believe it had to do with the promises of keeping costs in line for the privateer cars. Isn't there also a restriction on the bodywork changes, testing and many other areas? If you start down the slope of listening to the teams in an attempt to shave costs, one team is going to show-string the budget and want no part in anything beyond their outlay at the start. Extra testing to understand a new tire would be an extra cost they weren't willing to take on. Right or wrong they were offered the option and took what they felt was the best option for them to remain semi-competitive. Probably why they, Dragonspeed, also do not have the upgraded Gibson and now are stepping back to just Indy. You know the costs of Indy going in, for the most part at least.
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Old 11 Jun 2019, 18:27 (Ref:3909420)   #321
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The core development of the tyres is taking place at the same technical centres in Luxembourg and Germany that are responsible for the Dunlops, although a spokesman said that the process would also involve Goodyear's "global research and development assets".

He stressed that Goodyear's WEC comeback was more than a rebranding exercise, although it appears that the Dunlop name will disappear from the WEC next season.

"We will be entering the WEC with a new range of tyres; this is not just a rebranding of the existing Dunlop range," he said.
On DSC/S365 it was hinted that this won't change the situation in ELMS LMP2/GTE. So there might be 3 in-class brands at Le Mans the next year.
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Old 11 Jun 2019, 18:51 (Ref:3909431)   #322
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So nice to see Goodyear back in top level motorsport. They have done so much for motorsport. Who else had the 350 wins poster?
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On DSC/S365 it was hinted that this won't change the situation in ELMS LMP2/GTE. So there might be 3 in-class brands at Le Mans the next year.
That would be interesting, but it does seem it would be a Corvette/Michelin situation recently. I think they would require any teams running at LM with the ELMS program to use Goodyear tires at LM with their WEC tie-in. Not exactly as Corvette faced but I could imagine the Goodyear's are developed Dunlops since I'm guessing the tires aren't identical year to year at this point, and the ELMS tires may get similar treatment. Hopefully just a couple stickers and a new tire though
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Old 13 Jun 2019, 13:25 (Ref:3909790)   #324
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Oh. It was SMP/ART Grand Prix that vetoed the new front tyre.

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Their reasoning is understandable, but hopefully the new tires can be tested and used after Le Mans.
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Old 14 Jun 2019, 08:17 (Ref:3910021)   #327
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Toyota not using #1 even though they won the championship?

Also same number of cars in P1 and P2
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As a fan I might take the 2019-20 off since GTE does not look very interesting with 3 makes. BMW and Ford leaving is a big blow for the grid next season, but the one after that has me excited now with this new formula. I am glad the hypercar idea has finally worked out.

What happens to the GT categories though beyond 2020 in WEC I don't know. I think GTLM as we know can be sustainable through 2021. I think IMSA will should open up all-pro with no-GTD-bop-mandates GT3 cars to join the category.
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