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Old 28 Dec 2007, 13:37 (Ref:2095792)   #16
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Old 28 Dec 2007, 13:37 (Ref:2095793)   #17
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Robbie Gordon had one of the championship winning Dolomites which I drove and was surprised how sensitive it was for a saloon car.
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Old 28 Dec 2007, 20:01 (Ref:2095940)   #18
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Broadspeed was involved in the Dolomite Sprint from the start (1973 or 1974) in both Production Saloon Cars and the British Saloon Car Championship (now the British Touring Car Championship). The BSCC started out as Group 1 but to help some manufacturers who had trouble homologating performance options it was modified to Group 1 1/2 later which gave some more freedom on certain areas of the cars. The Sprints were fabulously successful in Group 1 but not so much in Group 2 (which was basically the International formula for the European Touring Car Championship), the main limitation being the design of the cylinder head which although 16 valves had a single cam which compromised the available cam timing versus the DOHC design allowed in Group 2. I never drove the Group 2 car but the Group 1 car was magic.
But I can confirm absolutely that the 1979 cars from the BSCC were the ex-Broadspeed Dolomites from Dron and Fitzpatrick. They even had the modified inner wheelarches at the rear which gave more tyre clearance to allow the bigger rubber....
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Old 29 Dec 2007, 04:39 (Ref:2096063)   #19
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Broadspeed was involved in the Dolomite Sprint from the start (1973 or 1974) in both Production Saloon Cars and the British Saloon Car Championship (now the British Touring Car Championship). The BSCC started out as Group 1 but to help some manufacturers who had trouble homologating performance options it was modified to Group 1 1/2 later which gave some more freedom on certain areas of the cars. The Sprints were fabulously successful in Group 1 but not so much in Group 2 (which was basically the International formula for the European Touring Car Championship), the main limitation being the design of the cylinder head which although 16 valves had a single cam which compromised the available cam timing versus the DOHC design allowed in Group 2. I never drove the Group 2 car but the Group 1 car was magic.
Until recent changes in the CTCRC regs they were pretty successful in Post Historics too.

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But I can confirm absolutely that the 1979 cars from the BSCC were the ex-Broadspeed Dolomites from Dron and Fitzpatrick. They even had the modified inner wheelarches at the rear which gave more tyre clearance to allow the bigger rubber....
Oops, modified bodywork? How dare they?
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Old 29 Dec 2007, 09:35 (Ref:2096114)   #20
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Until recent changes in the CTCRC regs they were pretty successful in Post Historics too.
What changes were they specifically Peter as the model still seems pretty competitive to me.
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Old 29 Dec 2007, 09:53 (Ref:2096120)   #21
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The changes involved the competiton not the Dolomite.
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Old 29 Dec 2007, 11:32 (Ref:2096157)   #22
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I remember there used to be a certain person who had a Belgian "Works" car.Not sure if he still owns it now though.
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Old 31 Dec 2007, 16:03 (Ref:2097161)   #23
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In case it is of interest I know of a Dolomite in Finland that the owner bought & collected directly from Gerry Marshall. Not sure to what spec it was though. So far as I know it is still there but has been used for ice racing.
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Old 31 Dec 2007, 16:17 (Ref:2097172)   #24
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Old 31 Dec 2007, 19:04 (Ref:2097239)   #25
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This is all I know. A gentleman I bought some old BMW touring cars from about 7 years ago offered me some other cars. Among them was a Dolly Sprint, he told me he personally drove to England and met Gerry Marshall (even described some big american thing Gerry was driving...) to buy this Dolly. He never said if it was Gp 1 or 2 and the pictures he send me showed the car with wheel arch extensions but they could have been added later. He did tell me who built the engine, a name I recognised but can`t remember. As I said he had used the car for ice racing in the winters. I have the pictures he sent somewhere.
Maybe out Finnish posters can add some detail. As the car must have been there for best part of 30 years now.
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This is all I know. A gentleman I bought some old BMW touring cars from about 7 years ago offered me some other cars. Among them was a Dolly Sprint, he told me he personally drove to England and met Gerry Marshall (even described some big american thing Gerry was driving...) to buy this Dolly. He never said if it was Gp 1 or 2 and the pictures he send me showed the car with wheel arch extensions but they could have been added later. He did tell me who built the engine, a name I recognised but can`t remember. As I said he had used the car for ice racing in the winters. I have the pictures he sent somewhere.
Maybe out Finnish posters can add some detail. As the car must have been there for best part of 30 years now.
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If anyone built the engine it would have been either Roger Dowson or Don Moore (come on Terry!!). If Gerry had a big yank tank with the handle-bars (sic) on the wrong side it could have been any time in early '80 (which must have been when the sales happened.
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Old 1 Jan 2008, 15:09 (Ref:2097617)   #27
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Gerry's/Tony's car was totalled in his famous British GP shunt when punted by Tom Walkinshaw coming into Club Corner. I'm not sure if that was rebuilt or whether a new car was created for the balance of the season.
This one Rex?


Silverstone during....



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This one Rex?

So that doesn't look as bad as it was; the first picture is the hairpin at Mallory, nothing to do with Silverstone other than the differance between cars and I think this is one of the things Stacy has and will always struggle with, the RX7 was homologated but never met the publics eye.

The sequence of photos you can see in the 3rd and 4th a little black ball flying out of the car; Dad's helmet, still done up, so you can imagine what happened afterwards!!
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Old 1 Jan 2008, 15:34 (Ref:2097634)   #29
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It was Don Moore. Alex
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Old 1 Jan 2008, 16:01 (Ref:2097641)   #30
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It was Don Moore. Alex
Alex, you are of course correct.

I was trying to get annoy Terry B to get him to use his grey matter as Don Moore was probably the best ever MG/BL (sorry Spike!!) specialist and out of anyone on this forum I was sure Terry would know.
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