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View Poll Results: Which of these drivers is most likely to retire with a WDC trophy? | |||
Monotya | 29 | 31.18% | |
Kimi | 22 | 23.66% | |
Button | 37 | 39.78% | |
Webber | 18 | 19.35% | |
Alonso | 45 | 48.39% | |
Fisi | 1 | 1.08% | |
Other | 4 | 4.30% | |
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27 Apr 2004, 10:25 (Ref:953311) | #1 | ||
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"He's definately a Future World Champion"
We here those words thrown around a bit these days, and on many drivers.
Of the current grid I've heard it stated as fact when it comes to Montoya, Kimi, Alonso, Webber, Button and even Fisi. Although all above are ahead of the class, we only need look back to other drivers that were 'definate WDC'. Pizzonia was going to be the 2nd coming, as was Massa, Sato, Herbert and Verstappen. Reality : of the current grid, only 1, 2 or maybe 3 will get the chance before their individual careers are over. And this is assuming a new star does'nt come along in the mean time (and none on that top list have been around more than 5 years). Some of them, as talented as they are, will not live their dream. So, my question is, of those in front of us at the moment, who would you put money on? At least 5 have the talent to be WDC, but considering age and talent seen so far who do you REALLY think will actually succeed? |
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27 Apr 2004, 10:31 (Ref:953316) | #2 | ||
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Alonso and Kimi. They are both very young and have the necessary skill. Webber is not in a good car and is a little bit older. Montoya is not consistent and hard working enough. Button could be WDC in a dominant car (like Damon Hill), but he is not more than that. Fisi is Fisi there is no way at all.
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27 Apr 2004, 10:54 (Ref:953338) | #3 | ||
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All but Fisi I guess.
Can't see Fisi getting into a top drive anymore. For the others, it all depends at being at the right place at the right moment. Give any of them a Williams, McLaren or Renault and none of them could pull it off (this year). No-one would have tought Irvine could be champion. Nevertheless with some more luck (or more bad luck to Hakkinen) he COULD have been WDC in 1999. He definitely was at the right place at the right time... I hope next year, Mclaren manages to produce a car like they did in 1984-1986, 1988-1991 or 1998-1999 and JPM and Kimi are in for a chance. |
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27 Apr 2004, 10:55 (Ref:953339) | #4 | ||
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All of them have a chance except for Fisichella, who has consistantly found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time, and hasn't shone so far this season, at a time when he needed to.
I think the most likely to become a champion is Kimi, but Button's chances have really increased so far this year. Montoya is enigmatic and might find hismelf in the wrong team next year (although it should be mroe competitive by 2006), and Webber and ALonso have both been shaky this season. |
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27 Apr 2004, 10:55 (Ref:953340) | #5 | ||
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I reckon any two or three from the top five - JPM, Kimi, Jense, Webber and Alonso. As you say Wrex, unlikely they'll all be, though - irrespective of talent...
If I really had to put money on it, I'd say JPM. Or maybe Kimi. Or Jenson... :confused: |
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27 Apr 2004, 10:56 (Ref:953342) | #6 | ||
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27 Apr 2004, 11:00 (Ref:953348) | #7 | |
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Kimi, Alonso and Button IMO.
Montoya could be as well, but he reminds me of Mansell. Could take a long time and a perfect supercar for him to snatch the title... Plus Juan Pablo's whining is also something which reminds me of Mansell. Last edited by ASCII Man; 27 Apr 2004 at 11:03. |
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27 Apr 2004, 11:18 (Ref:953375) | #8 | ||
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The same was said of Ronnie Peterson, Gilles Villenneuve, Jean Alesi and too many others to name. And on the way up, no one said it of Damon Hill, or Keke Rosberg. Its just too difficult to say and given That German Fellow's continued proclivity to trounce his opponents, it wouldn't surprise me if none of the names on the list ever earned a WDC. They just might have lost their edge to the NEXT generation before they get a chance.
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27 Apr 2004, 11:30 (Ref:953386) | #9 | ||
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Alonso - yes!
This season could ruin Kimi for a few years. Button - maybe. |
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27 Apr 2004, 11:32 (Ref:953389) | #10 | |
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I think Button and Kimmi have the best chances at the moment.
Both of them belong to the youngest 7 drivers on the grid. Both of them are driving a good car. Both of them have shown good results during some period. Alonso also might make a good chance. He is also driving a good car. And he is about 1 1/2 years younger than Button and Kimmi. And his results to date don't look bad against the results of Button and Kimmi until 1 1/2 years ago. And of course Massa would have a very good chance if he manages to get a Ferrari seat. |
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27 Apr 2004, 11:54 (Ref:953413) | #12 | |
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Of that group only Kimi, JPM and perhaps Webber (if he gets into Williams soon). As mentioned, his age will start to count against him.
That's their potential but in reality, looking at where they are in their careers now and where they're headed or likely to head, they're looking a bit doubtful if Kimi stays at Mac, JPM goes to Mac and Webber goes to Renault not Williams. |
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27 Apr 2004, 13:02 (Ref:953513) | #13 | ||
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Well, right now, out of those, you know who I think is the most talented. However, seeing as Giancarlo is unlikely to get a top team drive, it has to be Alonso. Button is, of course, also a very strong possibility.
If you would have asked me last year, I would have said Monty. But now that he's going to be at McLaren... |
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27 Apr 2004, 19:00 (Ref:953836) | #14 | ||
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Well, who knows?
The point is that given the right equipment,(say, a current Ferrari ) they proberbly all should do it, wether the equipment allows them to do it, we will have to wait and see. If the Sun (newspaper) is to be believed, Jenson is on his way to Ferrari, If it's true then i can see Jenson doing it. If Ferrari were to plump for Alonso, he could do it. If McLaren get theirselves sorted out, JPM and/or Kimi should definatly do it. If Williams sign Webber, plus get themselves back to the glory days, i can see him getting the job done. Its all if's and we will have to watch, wait and see. The only one who is most likely not to see his dream fullfilled is Fisi, age and the unlikelyhood of being picked up by a top team seem to make it a foregone conclusion, but he, imo, backs me up. Tied to a contract with a team manager that didn't allow him to go to another team that possibly could have shown off his skills. Had Benetton been as good as the McLarens/Ferrari's in 98, maybe he could have got the job done? Last edited by Mr V; 27 Apr 2004 at 19:01. |
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27 Apr 2004, 21:11 (Ref:953891) | #15 | ||
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I went for Montoya, Kimi, Button and Alonso. Webber has the pure speed and talent but I think he'll be tied to Jag for too long and may end up as one of those nearly men like Alesi.
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27 Apr 2004, 21:21 (Ref:953897) | #16 | ||
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Webber Kimmi & Alonso are the future of this sport and WDC's in waiting IMHO
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27 Apr 2004, 21:52 (Ref:953925) | #17 | ||
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I voted for Alonso as he certainly looks the goods , My heart of course says Webber and I have no doubt he is definately a candidate but of all of them Alonso is the stand out for me.
BTW Wrex im dissapointed a certain U.Katayama isnt on your list , I think he could still do it |
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27 Apr 2004, 22:41 (Ref:953976) | #18 | ||
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Alonso. He does impress nearly every race.
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27 Apr 2004, 22:54 (Ref:953986) | #19 | ||
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I think that any one of those drivers could become champion with the right machinery but while Schumacher is still around i can't see any of them becoming champion.
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27 Apr 2004, 23:33 (Ref:954002) | #20 | ||
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I voted for Button, but I also like Webber.
These two guys have some qualities that I feel the others lack. Both of these guys turned there teams around quickly upon there arrival. Jag and BAR were two teams going nowhere, and were the laughing stock of F1, and along come these two drivers, and they are instantly better. They seemingly transformed their respective teams, from a losing mentality, to a winners. That team building and team leading characteristic, is one of the greatest assets of MS, and is one, that I don't believe JPM, Kimi, Fisi, or Alonso have. |
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28 Apr 2004, 00:09 (Ref:954019) | #21 | ||
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On current form... Jenson Button.
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28 Apr 2004, 06:12 (Ref:954164) | #22 | ||
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I went for:
(1) Kimi, because McLaren can't be this bad for too long; (2) Webber, because he will leave Jaguar soon and probably find his way to either Williams or Renault, which can challenge for the WDC if the circumstances are right; (3) Alonso, because he will probably be cherry-picked by Ferrari to replace Schumacher in a couple of years time and Ferrari will do everything it can not to let its technical edge disappear too quickly (unlike Williams back in 98-99!). BTW, I saw Ukyo at the Aussie GP - he still looks capable of slotting into a F |
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28 Apr 2004, 06:14 (Ref:954167) | #23 | ||
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As I was saying before I accidently pressed the return button, I saw Ukyo at the Aussie GP - he still looks capable of slotting into a F1 car and ramming it around the track!
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28 Apr 2004, 06:43 (Ref:954191) | #24 | ||
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Errrr, who is Monotya?
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