[BTCC] BTCC 2021

[medius]

Originally Posted by Steel Wheels

Interesting to see the according to an article in MN Team Dynamics are looking to run a 3rd car if they can get an extra TBL.

That was also the case in 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017 etc. Since the third car was pulled in 2016.

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yup Which was a plan coming together last year, but unfortunate timing meant Simpson handed his TBL back a matter of days/ couple of weeks before Dynamics were in a position to green light the three car plan... and at that point none were to be had. I never did find out who driver #3 was in the plan but suspected (or wanted to believe) it was Flash. Would like to see him back, exciting driver to watch.

Matt said in a Instagram livestream during Lockdown that they had an agreement with Flash signed for 2020 but couldn't get a TBL to run him in their last FK2 Henry's been using.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by medius

That was also the case in 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017 etc. Since the third car was pulled in 2016.



Matt said in a Instagram livestream during Lockdown that they had an agreement with Flash signed for 2020 but couldn't get a TBL to run him in their last FK2 Henry's been using.

Why on earth would they have run an FK2? Surely it was bad enough having to explain being beaten by AmD Hondas to Honda!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Why on earth would they have run an FK2? Surely it was bad enough having to explain being beaten by AmD Hondas to Honda!

Because chassis NGTC-12-005 is in their possession and ready to run?

Why would they have to explain to Honda why the FK8 is gaining brand exposure with good results for the marque across multiple teams?

[thetool]

People keep bringing up that they would have run Shedden in the old car had they been able to get the TBL. Not a chance. Dynamics are capable of building up a new FK8 in less than 2 weeks. It certainly wouldn't have been ideal having the old model beat the new one either.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by thetool

People keep bringing up that they would have run Shedden in the old car had they been able to get the TBL. Not a chance. Dynamics are capable of building up a new FK8 in less than 2 weeks. It certainly wouldn't have been ideal having the old model beat the new one either.

I think people keep bringing it up because they are the words of Matt Neal himself.

[medius]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Why on earth would they have run an FK2? Surely it was bad enough having to explain being beaten by AmD Hondas to Honda!

Because building cars cost money. Running existing cars costs considerably less. Matt said it would have been under a different banner (GS) so could do TCT without livery issue) so not a Honda-works entry so no need to be a current car.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I think people keep bringing it up because they are the words of Matt Neal himself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Matt...w=1064&bih=570

Happy for you to provide a source to the contrary.

[S griffin]

You can tell it was something they were giving serious consideration for. But I’m not surprised it didn’t happen. No doubt it showed how serious TD/Honda are, although it was probably for the best. Now let’s see what happens in 2021. Still plenty of available options at this stage

[medius]

Originally Posted by thetool

https://www.google.com/search?q=Matt...w=1064&bih=570

Happy for you to provide a source to the contrary.

Several Q&A livestreams Matt ran on Instagram earlier this year where he was asked directly "why don't you run Gordon in a third car?" matt answers directly and says he signed a contracts with the team for Henry's car, the team capability and backing from YUASA and blessing from Honda was there but couldn't secure a TBL from TOCA. Then admked about Flash in the TCR Audi they had but Matt says it was sold during lockdown.

The empty room argument is on the verge of breaking out now, funny how its always started by the same few? Such is lifw I guess. Cabin fever.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by medius

Then admked about Flash in the TCR Audi they had but Matt says it was sold during lockdown.

Dynamics were looking to get the TBL from Simpson Racing; the TCR Audi is now with the similar sounding but unrelated Simpson Motorsport.

[Alfisti]

The real truth is Elvis was looking to have Willie Poole modify his pink Caddy, subject to Lord Gow accepting it as valid - bit or rule adjusting, Dynamics were going to run it and Flash was going to drive it.

[Jay87]

Anyone know when the allocated tbl list will be released. Seem to remember it being around the start of December last year. Guessing it may be a bit later this year.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Jay87

Anyone know when the allocated tbl list will be released. Seem to remember it being around the start of December last year. Guessing it may be a bit later this year.

As you would expect, they wouldn't typically release it until all entries are in. The deadline for entries is typically late Feb, and I would expect some teams will be leaving it until later to confirm under the current circumstances.

I wouldn't be surprised if the final list of team entries is not published until close to early March this time around.

[Lancsbreaker]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The real truth is Elvis was looking to have Willie Poole modify his pink Caddy, subject to Lord Gow accepting it as valid - bit or rule adjusting, Dynamics were going to run it and Flash was going to drive it.

I think you may be on with a chance for an accurate prediction, this time
Such is the wierd world in which we live

[S griffin]

I have a fair idea where some will be going, but still a fair few unknowns at this stage on certain seats. I am sure we will have a few surprises in certain teams and will hopefully have a great lineup on the 2021 grid, with plenty of great teams and star drivers, with some new blood too. I hope we get some answers come the end of December

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

As you would expect, they wouldn't typically release it until all entries are in. The deadline for entries is typically late Feb, and I would expect some teams will be leaving it until later to confirm under the current circumstances.

TBL allocation list and Entry list are 2 different things.

The allocation list is normally realised around Nov/Dec. It just tells you which teams have how many TBLs. That won't tell you which drivers/cars, just team numbers. That was what was being asked about.

You are referring to the entry list, which shows individual driver names, what car they are entering in and what team name they will run under. That won't be released until Media Day, which will be some time in March.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by redshoes

TBL allocation list and Entry list are 2 different things.

The allocation list is normally realised around Nov/Dec. It just tells you which teams have how many TBLs. That won't tell you which drivers/cars, just team numbers. That was what was being asked about.

You are referring to the entry list, which shows individual driver names, what car they are entering in and what team name they will run under. That won't be released until Media Day, which will be some time in March.

Yes, I know they are two different things.

No, I was referring to the confirmed team entries, although my dates were out. Apologies - I do accept that my post was not entirely accurate.

For the 2020 season, the deadline for team registrations was Nov 29th, 2019. At which point teams had to have paid their £10k deposit and held a TBL to confirm their entry.

The registration of drivers was later, being 21st February.

I am not certain if the dates will be later this season, although I expect so given that the last round of 2020 was in November.

[S griffin]

There is still time. We still haven’t got an entry list yet. We’ll have to keep a lookout to see when certain teams and drivers tell us when there will be an announcement

Hopefully we can keep a lot of top teams, the WSRs, Dynamics, PMR etc. And top drivers too, Cammish, Turkington, Butcher, Ingram, Oliphant etc.

Obviously we will have to speculate till we get some answers, but that’s part of fun. See who’s hunch is right

[Pickles]

Second driver confirmed at Team HARD

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Pickles

Second driver confirmed at Team HARD

Who is it?

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Who is it?

Hasn't been announced yet but they've signed.

[Alfisti]

Goffy I believe but do not know for sure.

Tony is going to be able to get a fair bit of mileage out of his signings... all pretty quiet elsewhere. Think #3 and #4 are close to fruition, so they may all be announced by Santa comes.

[S griffin]

Just need to look out for the announcement of an announcement on Twitter

[Overboost]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Goffy I believe but do not know for sure.

Tony is going to be able to get a fair bit of mileage out of his signings... all pretty quiet elsewhere. Think #3 and #4 are close to fruition, so they may all be announced by Santa comes.

It is quiet at present but the big news will come in the new year. Expect some changes with TBL shuffling.

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Just need to look out for the announcement of an announcement on Twitter

Will it happen soon or in the new year. We will just have to wait and see. I have no doubt there will be an announcement soon. Who the driver will be, I'm not sure. We will see soon.