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Old 27 Mar 2012, 22:33 (Ref:3049717)   #51
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This is the official release colour of the new Focus ST. I suspect getting one in an understated colour may take a little while yet!

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Old 27 Mar 2012, 22:41 (Ref:3049727)   #52
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This is the official release colour of the new Focus ST. I suspect getting one in an understated colour may take a little while yet!

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You can change the colors on the US page?

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/focusst/
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Old 27 Mar 2012, 22:55 (Ref:3049740)   #53
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It's not even listed on the official Uk site!
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Old 28 Mar 2012, 02:23 (Ref:3049806)   #54
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Perhaps we need to define "middle age"? Most people in their 50s or 60s tend to consider themself "middle aged", but statistically speaking, the average 40 year old has already passed the mid point of their life.
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Old 28 Mar 2012, 10:23 (Ref:3049944)   #55
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I just read an article on the new Focus ST... It looks really, really cool.
Just my opinion, but I think the front spoiler for the regular Focus is a bit over the top and would be better suited to the ST. I'm not a real fan of the ST front treatment.
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Old 28 Mar 2012, 12:25 (Ref:3049996)   #56
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Not sure why they chose the name they did,perhaps trying to find something 'in period'?
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Old 29 Mar 2012, 20:18 (Ref:3050601)   #57
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Perhaps we need to define "middle age"? Most people in their 50s or 60s tend to consider themself "middle aged", but statistically speaking, the average 40 year old has already passed the mid point of their life.
Couldn't agree more, if you're expecting 75years on this good earth, then 25-50 is your middle age. If you're the optimistic sort and hoping for 90 years then its 30-60..... so lets call this thread LATE middle age men and Hot Hatch's

Course, way back when I still counted as 'young', a Hot Hatch actually looked like Hot Hatch
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Old 29 Mar 2012, 20:34 (Ref:3050613)   #58
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Not, of course, forgetting possibly the daddy of them all......

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Old 30 Mar 2012, 10:37 (Ref:3050779)   #59
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..... so lets call this thread LATE middle age men and Hot Hatch's

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Old 30 Mar 2012, 11:22 (Ref:3050797)   #60
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Can't be. It's short for HOT HATCHBACK, so there are missing letters between the HATCH and the S which should be replaced with an apostrophe. Your version would suggest its the hatches that are hot!!
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 11:26 (Ref:3050799)   #61
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If it were an abreviation it should be "hatchback(s)". And the apostrophe still doesn't do it.
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 11:28 (Ref:3050803)   #62
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How can hatchback(s) be an abbreviation of hatchbacks?
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 11:39 (Ref:3050807)   #63
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Now this is a conundrum, to be sure.

An apostrophe would infer "something belonging or pertaining to the hatchback or hatch". In this case you are attempting to simplify the plural of the abbreviation of hatchbacks.

I agree that the apostrophe should not be there, but I'm b*ggered if I can explain why.

Anyhoo... with the budget mentioned previously, an original Golf GTI Mk1 is possibly now too dear, but what about a Pug 205GTI (1.6 or 1.9), nicely restored to standard spec.?
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 12:22 (Ref:3050822)   #65
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I agree that the apostrophe should not be there, but I'm b*ggered if I can explain why.
I was about to agree that it's a fair point, and I wasn't sure it looked right myself.... but really I should be warning you not to dodge the autocensor.

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Old 30 Mar 2012, 12:54 (Ref:3050830)   #66
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A little known fact about the 205GTI 1.9 is that you can get them sideways down a country lane at deep into 3 figures, hold it and drag it back again without killing the car, yourself, your passenger (and owner of the car) and anyone in your path...

... but nobody knows how.


Er, apparently.

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I was about to agree that it's a fair point, and I wasn't sure it looked right myself.... but really I should be warning you not to dodge the autocensor.

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Should he have written buggered instead of using the apostrophe star?
To clarify, do we batten down the hatches or hatch's?
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 15:11 (Ref:3050873)   #68
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A little known fact about the 205GTI 1.9 is that you can get them sideways down a country lane at deep into 3 figures, hold it and drag it back again without killing the car, yourself, your passenger (and owner of the car) and anyone in your path...

... but nobody knows how.


Er, apparently.

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All we know is...................................... He's the Stig.
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To clarify, do we batten down the hatches or hatch's?
The hatch's hatches!
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 15:37 (Ref:3050890)   #70
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I would say.... OMG, Dunno, Init!

Well I do live in Essex

Anyway,

I had a go in one of these once... awesome! No idea what one would cost now, but if I could afford one I think I wouldn't care what anyone thought. Hotest of all standard factory hot hatches... ever?
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 16:19 (Ref:3050903)   #71
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How about this for a proper hot hatch. The one owner since 1983 was my brother, then myself, then my brother again so the story isn't quite true plus one or two other things that aren't quite what they say.

What's really annoying is that he was going to sell it back to me last year but the silly ****er gave it away along with another similar one.
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Interesting..... are we suggesting that a middle age man can get away with a hot hatch so long as it's at least half his age?
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And if we are, does the same apply to the bit of skirt in the passenger seat?
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I would say.... OMG, Dunno, Init!

Well I do live in Essex

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I had a go in one of these once... awesome! No idea what one would cost now, but if I could afford one I think I wouldn't care what anyone thought. Hotest of all standard factory hot hatches... ever?


VERY hard to beat as a roundabout straightener!Arguably the ultimate of the Hot Hatchback''''''''s,es.
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If you want a under stated performance hatchback that I dont think has been mentioned yet then how about the latest spec Mazda 3 MPS? Relatively cheap, 260bhp and 0-60 in under 6 seconds, not a bad car overall and certainly one I would be considering if I was going down the petrol route again.
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