2020 VASC Silly Season - Page 36

Speedy400 · 13 Dec 2019, 08:38 (Ref:3946473)

I think your assumptions are wrong - not mine.

What Ifthere was a wind tunnel available at the same cost of the current procedure...

Nick Percat would bet both his houses they would use the wind tunnel.

V8 Fireworks · 13 Dec 2019, 13:25 (Ref:3946506)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

This makes NO difference to the problem at hand.

The teams produce a variety of parts which are expected to produce the given performance. If the teams in question didn't produce parts that work in the real world then the parity will not be there. Wind tunnel makes no difference at all.

It is GOOD that the process has found this now. This season HAS to have at least a perception of equal performance between marques out of the gate.

But DJRTP is the best team, so they SHOULD be winning all the time. Yet said winning all the time creates unwarranted complaints from Commodore runners, in spite of February 2019 VCAT ***clearly*** showing technical parity at 200 kmhr in a straight line... The only condition where technical parity on aero was specified.

888 winning all the time because they were gifted 40kg more aero load without justification is untenable.

Armco Bender · 13 Dec 2019, 18:19 (Ref:3946575)

Vacancy at DJR/TP shortly?...https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motors...e-indycar-test

mayhem · 13 Dec 2019, 19:10 (Ref:3946588)

"Hello ADP? Whats your plans for 2021?"

JAFA851 · 14 Dec 2019, 03:21 (Ref:3946637)

Cry-baby won't last long over there when things don't go his way.

Mixer · 14 Dec 2019, 03:24 (Ref:3946638)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayhem

"Hello ADP? Whats your plans for 2021?"

Note Will Brown contracted to Erebus for 2021.

They won't need 3 cars.

kittle · 15 Dec 2019, 19:23 (Ref:3946884)

Golding to Team 18 enduro drive?

Axeman444 · 15 Dec 2019, 21:48 (Ref:3946896)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFA851

Cry-baby won't last long over there when things don't go his way.

Are you his illegitimate love child or something? Forgotten Step-Brother?

The hate seems to flow...

Denosaur · 15 Dec 2019, 23:14 (Ref:3946904)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

F1, among many others actually uses straight line running to validate wind tunnel and CFD work.

As great as the technology is, they all validate in the field. Just look at the amount of array's that the F1 cars have bolted on during testing. All that data is compared to the tunnel and CFD data. It's been said before with F1 that the CFD and tunnel show improvements, but the once on track they get a different result.

So in this case, something isn't adding up between the data and results they were working with.

Don't forget, they take all the data from the field and the tunnel into the simulators, so if that's out by any percentage, they could end up way off with simulator runs and proposed set ups for the weekends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

So the assumption that wind tunnel is outright superior to straight line running is flat out wrong.

The tunnel is a great place to start and understand, but the tunnel is such a controlled environment, once you apply the bumps in the track, spring and damper movements, it changes everything.

The ultimate set up in a tunnel would be not only to have the car on a rolling road, but then have actuators in the model/full size car, that adjust/make the car ride like it's on the track. Shaker rig meets wind tunnel...

Phillip Ireland · 16 Dec 2019, 01:08 (Ref:3946916)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFA851

Cry-baby won't last long over there when things don't go his way.

Bit rough. In all, with all the hiccups and hurdles he had to deal with towards the end of the season, I thought he handled it pretty well. What did disappoint was the ungracious response by other drivers far too keen to start flicking mud online.

Mixer · 16 Dec 2019, 02:23 (Ref:3946925)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip Ireland

Bit rough. In all, with all the hiccups and hurdles he had to deal with towards the end of the season, I thought he handled it pretty well. What did disappoint was the ungracious response by other drivers far too keen to start flicking mud online.

If he uses the media to describe the entire Nascar pitliane as "toxic" but then claims bullying when people respond, he will 1) end up in the wall and 2) probably get belted.

IMO it showed a side of him that turned me off. Something about believing your **** doesn't stink.

Sandgroper · 16 Dec 2019, 04:35 (Ref:3946932)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip Ireland

Bit rough. In all, with all the hiccups and hurdles he had to deal with towards the end of the season, I thought he handled it pretty well. What did disappoint was the ungracious response by other drivers far too keen to start flicking mud online.

Ditto

I thought he handles himself quite well.
Maybe just needs a bit of Daveys personality

banksie · 16 Dec 2019, 07:23 (Ref:3946937)

Randle won't be driving for Tickford in Super2 in 2020. Has he also been flicked from their enduro line-up?

Sultan · 16 Dec 2019, 07:44 (Ref:3946938)

I was led to believe he still has the enduro drive - I could be mistaken though..

Has anyone heard if Stanaway is staying retired?

JAFA851 · 16 Dec 2019, 09:52 (Ref:3946943)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

If he uses the media to describe the entire Nascar pitliane as "toxic" but then claims bullying when people respond, he will 1) end up in the wall and 2) probably get belted.

IMO it showed a side of him that turned me off. Something about believing your **** doesn't stink.

Mixer has it down 100%.

Speedy400 · 16 Dec 2019, 11:37 (Ref:3946952)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan

I was led to believe he still has the enduro drive - I could be mistaken though..

Has anyone heard if Stanaway is staying retired?

His social media is a strong indication he is no longer a race car driver. Even if he changes his mind I’d be surprised anyone would entertain the thought of him driving for them.

kittle · 16 Dec 2019, 22:15 (Ref:3947046)

Quote:

Originally Posted by banksie

Randle won't be driving for Tickford in Super2 in 2020. Has he also been flicked from their enduro line-up?

I thought he was going to do a year in S5000. But still remain as Holdsworth's enduro partner.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Dec 2019, 22:22 (Ref:3947048)

ford71 · 17 Dec 2019, 00:22 (Ref:3947062)

Great news, not a bad spot for Golding to end up

Fireball · 17 Dec 2019, 02:29 (Ref:3947084)

Quote:

Originally Posted by banksie

Randle won't be driving for Tickford in Super2 in 2020. Has he also been flicked from their enduro line-up?

he might bob up as co-driver with a former winner

Sandgroper · 17 Dec 2019, 13:26 (Ref:3947149)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireball

he might bob up as co-driver with a former winner

Pye ?

SO whats happened to Randle then? I thought he was the golden child.

Good news for Golding I say

Fireball · 17 Dec 2019, 22:38 (Ref:3947261)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Pye ?

SO whats happened to Randle then? I thought he was the golden child.

Good news for Golding I say

Pye has never won Bathurst.

mayhem · 18 Dec 2019, 00:36 (Ref:3947264)

Is everything okay at Tickford? Team (and Rusty French) favourite is out of there, replaced by Feeney. But Randle lobs at MWM with Skye Sands??

Fireball · 18 Dec 2019, 00:55 (Ref:3947266)

what im hearing from my Cuz (worked at tickford) is that when randle wanted to do with MWR super 2, tickford said no co-drive, so he looked elsewhere, had 4 offers that day, shame he would of been good with holdsworth again.
Maybe feeney with holdsworth now?

mayhem · 18 Dec 2019, 04:27 (Ref:3947280)

Why would he leave Tickford willingly?

View Poll Results: Who will win the 2020 VASC Series?
#25 WAU - Chaz Mostert - Commodore	1	2.04%
#4 JSR - Jack Smith - Commodore	1	2.04%
#5 Tickford - Lee Holdsworth - Mustang	0	0%
#6 Tickford - Cam Waters - Mustang	2	4.08%
#7 KR - Andre Heimgartner - Mustang	0	0%
#8 BJR - Nick Percat - Commodore	0	0%
#9 Erebus - David Reynolds - Commodore	0	0%
#12 DJRTP - Fabian Coulthard - Mustang	0	0%
#14 BJR - Todd Hazelwood - Commodore	0	0%
#15 KR - Rick Kelly - Mustang	0	0%
#17 DJRTP - Scott McLaughlin - Mustang	25	51.02%
#18 Team18 - Mark Winterbottom - Commodore	0	0%
#19 Team Sydney - James Courtney - Commodore	1	2.04%
#3 TBR - Macauley Jones - Commodore	1	2.04%
#2 WAU - Bryce Fullwood - Commodore	0	0%
#23 23Red - Will Davison - Mustang	0	0%
#34 MSR - Zane Goddard/Jake Kostecki - Commodore	1	2.04%
#35 MSR - Garry Jacobson - Commodore	0	0%
#55 Tickford - Jack Le Brocq - Mustang	0	0%
#20 Team18 - Scott Pye - Commodore	0	0%
#88 RBHRT - Jamie Whincup - Commodore	5	10.20%
#22 Team Sydney - Chris Pither - Commodore	0	0%
#97 RBHRT - Shane Van Gisbergen - Commodore	12	24.49%
#99 Erebus - Anton de Pasquale - Commodore	0	0%
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