BTCC Brands Hatch Rd4/5/6 - Page 5

redshoes · 8 Aug 2020, 17:32 (Ref:3993831)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Chilton's been the disappointment so far for me, P10 around a Honda circuit with no ballast.

10th is about where I'd expect him to be. He's had a few good results over the years but never been outstanding.

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Originally Posted by antnee

Neate is a little slow too - more so when an identical car is on pole

Also not a huge surprise.

peebee2 · 8 Aug 2020, 17:51 (Ref:3993835)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

We'll see where he is mid season, but yeah to be 3 seconds off really isn't a good sign.

I’m not sure he’s ever been anywhere near the pace in anything he’s raced.

billy bleach · 8 Aug 2020, 18:32 (Ref:3993843)

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Originally Posted by antnee

Neate is a little slow too - more so when an identical car is on pole

On Pole with 50kg

sceptic · 8 Aug 2020, 18:57 (Ref:3993846)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

10th is about where I'd expect him to be. He's had a few good results over the years but never been outstanding.

He held the Brands Hatch lap record for years.

RS67 · 8 Aug 2020, 18:59 (Ref:3993847)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

On Pole with 50kg

42kg. No one is carrying 50kg.

crmalcolm · 8 Aug 2020, 19:05 (Ref:3993848)

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Originally Posted by RS67

42kg. No one is carrying 50kg.

[pedant mode] 48kg - he's tied with Sutton so they both carry the same ballast[/pedant mode]

'Despite carrying 48kg of success ballast, the Scot was almost half a second clear of everyone on the first runs and just managed to keep his nose in front as most of the other leading contenders improved later in the session.'

billy bleach · 8 Aug 2020, 19:07 (Ref:3993849)

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Originally Posted by RS67

42kg. No one is carrying 50kg.

2 kg obviously makes the World of difference

AnnoyedMoose · 8 Aug 2020, 19:17 (Ref:3993850)

Noticed they're not all wearing masks this week in the interviews...

Suttons car looked quite oddly setup to me. I know NGTC cars run softer than most touring cars but the Infiniti looked to be a bit excessive.

RS67 · 8 Aug 2020, 19:24 (Ref:3993852)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

[pedant mode] 48kg - he's tied with Sutton so they both carry the same ballast[/pedant mode]

'Despite carrying 48kg of success ballast, the Scot was almost half a second clear of everyone on the first runs and just managed to keep his nose in front as most of the other leading contenders improved later in the session.'

He maybe on equal points but the standings have him down as 4th on account of Sutton having a win.

RS67 · 8 Aug 2020, 19:27 (Ref:3993856)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

2 kg obviously makes the World of difference

If Butcher is on 48kg like Sutton then 0kg also makes the world of difference, Butcher's 48kg must have been made of feathers as Sutton's was most certainly made of lead.

RS67 · 8 Aug 2020, 19:29 (Ref:3993859)

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Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Noticed they're not all wearing masks this week in the interviews...

Suttons car looked quite oddly setup to me. I know NGTC cars run softer than most touring cars but the Infiniti looked to be a bit excessive.

Louise did say the drivers didn't have to wear masks for interviews just before she interviewed them.

AnnoyedMoose · 8 Aug 2020, 20:17 (Ref:3993872)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Louise did say the drivers didn't have to wear masks for interviews just before she interviewed them.

I only saw the interviews themselves on the websites rather than the broadcast. Wonder why they were so insistent on them last weekend and this they're not? Can't see what's changed.

**touringlegend** · 8 Aug 2020, 20:52 (Ref:3993881)

The weather. Butcher looked absolutely knackered in his interview.

Hope everyone is up to the race distances tomorrow. BTCC drivers don’t tend to require extreme fitness in normal circumstances

Matt K · 8 Aug 2020, 21:39 (Ref:3993886)

Interesting to see what Ash can do from P14. Imagine elbows out and rocketing up the grid...but with what result? Infiniti doesn't seem that fast at Brands.

And interesting that Cammish with quite a ballast is way ahead of Neal without weight.

Evantra · 8 Aug 2020, 21:46 (Ref:3993887)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

And interesting that Cammish with quite a ballast is way ahead of Neal without weight.

Have to think Neal will finally 'retire' at the end of this season. He's still capable of being a solid point scorer but I can't see there are many more race wins left in him.

fergus_r · 9 Aug 2020, 00:17 (Ref:3993893)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

I know it very early in the year and he desperately needs seat time but can I say how totally unimpressed I am with Jack Butel. Slowest in qualifying by over 3 seconds; over a second slower that the next fastest time (Nic Hamilton). He's been in the bottom 2 every session this year. When you are consistently slower than someone who didn't even have a race licence 6 months ago (Ollie Brown), then something is badly wrong.

You've never seen Butel race before if this comes as a surprise to you!

RS67 · 9 Aug 2020, 07:11 (Ref:3993927)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

Interesting to see what Ash can do from P14. Imagine elbows out and rocketing up the grid...but with what result? Infiniti doesn't seem that fast at Brands.

He is still having to overdrive the car, even when they were showing his laps during qualifying, Tim Harvey was saying he was Sutton was on it and was expecting a fast lap, not only was Sutton no where near setting a front row grid time, he was not even close to getting close to his own fastest time, let alone beating it. Tyres were probably way past their best, the car was all over the place. I Sutton is superfit, because if today's heat is anything like yesterday, I can see both him and the tyres being shot, long before the end of the race.

crmalcolm · 9 Aug 2020, 10:02 (Ref:3993946)

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Originally Posted by RS67

I Sutton is superfit, because if today's heat is anything like yesterday, I can see both him and the tyres being shot, long before the end of the race.

I would imagine this is a greater likelihood at Motorbase and Exceler8.

Like Laser Tools, they are running new cars so lack the historical data of long runs in heat, but the effects will be worse asking tyres to provide drive as well as turn. The Q50 should be better able to cope with the heat and preserve the tyres.

porsche962fan · 9 Aug 2020, 10:22 (Ref:3993947)

isn't Neal the oldest driver on the grid now ? with Collard gone and Plato not racing this year

Matt K · 9 Aug 2020, 10:22 (Ref:3993948)

...and it's not Hamilton who caused Safety Car this time

mprmke · 9 Aug 2020, 10:23 (Ref:3993949)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

isn't Neal the oldest driver on the grid now ? with Collard gone and Plato not racing this year

Neal is older than Plato and Collard anyway.

mark_l · 9 Aug 2020, 10:25 (Ref:3993950)

I hope the stewards look at the start of R1 by Dan Cammish, he moved across to his right nearly forcing Jackson in to the barrier at the pit exit.

porsche962fan · 9 Aug 2020, 10:29 (Ref:3993951)

poor Butcher

and Jake Hill only 10th

Evantra · 9 Aug 2020, 10:30 (Ref:3993953)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

I hope the stewards look at the start of R1 by Dan Cammish, he moved across to his right nearly forcing Jackson in to the barrier at the pit exit.

Yep, thought that was going to be huge.

Gutted for Butcher. Looks like it'll be Cammish and Turkington for the title again this year.

Josh Cook's weekend is ruined after R1 again

Matt K · 9 Aug 2020, 10:35 (Ref:3993955)

Quite a shame for Butcher, looked like a great weekend in the making...
And actually what happened with Hill?
I also think it's time to put someone way younger into the #25 Honda.

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