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Old 13 Jan 2012, 19:58 (Ref:3011363)   #601
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Oldtony should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridOldtony should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridOldtony should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridOldtony should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Black Falcon Mercs looking pretty impressive in Dubai so far.
Lambos not quite as quick but looking significantly more reliable than the Ferraris. Scudd or ff care to comment
Have now missed my RV booking due to not making an early enough decision, so will have to pay more if I come.
Richard, even a drip feed on the Website would be better marketing than having the thing hibernate for about 6 weeks. Not brilliant marketing.
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Old 13 Jan 2012, 20:34 (Ref:3011387)   #602
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Why rattle on just for the sake of it? The event is on, date hasn't changed and other than bringing us time wasters up to date with 'guess what?..Herman the German is coming or Trabant Motorsport are considering a class entry'... what marketing value is there or opportunity to put more bums on seats over the Xmas break?

Those that will be there decided long ago. RC will be sure to keep us informed with relevance.
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Old 13 Jan 2012, 20:47 (Ref:3011389)   #603
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Why rattle on just for the sake of it? The event is on, date hasn't changed and other than bringing us time wasters up to date with 'guess what?..Herman the German is coming or Trabant Motorsport are considering a class entry'... what marketing value is there or opportunity to put more bums on seats over the Xmas break?

Those that will be there decided long ago. RC will be sure to keep us informed with relevance.


The car is ready... its even an EvoII!! Look forward to seeing it at the Mountain
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Old 14 Jan 2012, 00:10 (Ref:3011455)   #604
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Just watching the Dubai race and I missed the first bit as to if they went under qualifying or nominated time that they received a drive through penalty.

Sounds to me like a 24hr regularity.

Anyone shed any light on this.
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Old 14 Jan 2012, 01:37 (Ref:3011465)   #605
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....."Creventic, the Dutch company that organizes this race, as well as other enduros in the 24H Series, uses a unique BoP system where cars are assigned a target time that they are not allowed to lap faster. If they do, penalties in the form of ballast, fuel capacity changes and ride height adjustments could be issued.

In the race, each team gets ten “joker laps”, where their car can exceed the minimum reference lap established prior to the start. With penalties of increasing severity being issued for violations, it adds an an extra layer of strategy to the race."
taken from this - http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...sday-notebook/
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Old 14 Jan 2012, 08:13 (Ref:3011501)   #606
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Just watching the Dubai race and I missed the first bit as to if they went under qualifying or nominated time that they received a drive through penalty.

Sounds to me like a 24hr regularity.

Anyone shed any light on this.


That's the BoP for certain times..

They also have 10 joker laps which they can break out of their nominated time before they get a time penalty...

Kinda makes for bland race as you can't really chase that guy 30sec in front like you would normally in a race, you kinda have to sit on your nominated time and hope they make a mistake... and before all you enduro guys pipe up I get enduro racing but still when the cars have all this pace in reserve it kinda makes it a bit boring to watch and not going to get those great chasing battles that spectators enjoy... I am glad the Bathurst 12hr hasn't done the same with nurfing the race lap times..

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Old 14 Jan 2012, 10:58 (Ref:3011557)   #607
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Thank you both for that info on Dubai.

Did not matter that much, Mercedes 1.2.3.
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Old 14 Jan 2012, 17:50 (Ref:3011649)   #608
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That's the BoP for certain times..

They also have 10 joker laps which they can break out of their nominated time before they get a time penalty...

Kinda makes for bland race as you can't really chase that guy 30sec in front like you would normally in a race, you kinda have to sit on your nominated time and hope they make a mistake... and before all you enduro guys pipe up I get enduro racing but still when the cars have all this pace in reserve it kinda makes it a bit boring to watch and not going to get those great chasing battles that spectators enjoy... I am glad the Bathurst 12hr hasn't done the same with nurfing the race lap times..
No arguments here.
It's racing - if the driver's not the arbiter of their own pace, what's the point?

Dubai wasn't much more than a 24 hour display of restraint.

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Old 16 Jan 2012, 00:29 (Ref:3012142)   #609
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Exciting news about a certain Gull-winged entry coming Monday... bit of a holdup in confirming everything but it's locked in and will be all confirmed Monday.
Is it Monday yet

Even though the imposed time limit in qualifying and practice is a bit dissapointing, having one in the race would make it farcical. I wouldn't bother going to spectate if this was the case.
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The car is ready... its even an EvoII!! Look forward to seeing it at the Mountain
Thanks GTA, now we know what TBA as the entry list on the website means.
It is a race fo Formula TraBAnt
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Thanks GTA, now we know what TBA as the entry list on the website means.
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Not as pretty look at as an SLS or R8.. but pretty good on tyre economy, set up to be a tricycle and all
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Old 16 Jan 2012, 03:34 (Ref:3012168)   #612
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Even though the imposed time limit in qualifying and practice is a bit dissapointing, having one in the race would make it farcical. I wouldn't bother going to spectate if this was the case.
I wouldnt attend either if they ever introduced it to the race so i hope the race organisers are listening to the fans opinions.

As it is im now not disapointed at all that i will miss saturdays running and wont worry about trying to make it to future saturdays of the event unless the support card is especially good.

It could have been a very exciting day and therefore also a lucrative day with multiple cars capable of breaking the lap record.

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My thoughts exactly. While qualifying is largely irrelevant in Endurance racing, the mere principle of all quick drivers taking it easy is a turn-off.
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Be interesting to know when they decided to impose the minimum time and how they arrived at 2:08.

If it's anything like the Prodsports race at Bathurst this year, they will have considered the slowest cars on the entry list and made the time to suit them, hopefully eliminating the need to send anyone home after qualifying.

I know every entry is important to the promoter, but it does seem a shame though to spoil qualifying for the sake of one or two entries. Perhaps if they specified that all entrants would need a minimum qualifying time of 2:41.00 as part of the regs, then they wouldn't have to impose a time limit, as no one's going to do a sub 2:04 lap.
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... As it is im now not disapointed at all that i will miss saturdays running and wont worry about trying to make it to future saturdays of the event unless the support card is especially good ...
I haven't committed myself to attend yet. Apart from sorting work commitments, I'm also hanging out to see what level of Sports Sedan interest there will be; assuming I do go, I want to know whether the SS field will be ho-hum or not - if it's good, I'll leave Melbourne Friday night and knock off a good portion of the drive to catch 1 or both of the SS event/s on Saturday. The rest of the support events won't entice me.

The other, cheaper + easier option is just to drive up on Saturday.
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